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Old May 2, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Using Mercon V in a 4R100

Is this OK? I bought the wrong fluid, and know that you're not supposed to use the regular Mercon in the "70" tranny, but can I use the Mercon V in a 4R100? Experiences?

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PS- I should clarify, I actually used Mobil 1 Synthetic "dual purpose" for both Mercon and Mercon V. This OK?
 

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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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No u will ruin you're tranny, mercon v is for the 4r70w only, the clutches in the 4r100 cant handle the friction modifiers in the V hope this helps.
 
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Old May 3, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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I think that, if the Mobil bottle specifically says Mercon AND Mercon V, you are O.K.

Not sure if this was top-off or complete change, but certainly if this was less than one quart you don't need to worry. I feel that one should ONLY use the trans fluid specified for a full change (and I'm reluctant to use multi-rated fluids), but it matters much less when you're adding such a small amount.
 

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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBSS
I think that, if the Mobil bottle specifically says Mercon AND Mercon V, you are O.K.

Not sure if this was top-off or complete change, but certainly if this was less than one quart you don't need to worry. I feel that one should ONLY use the trans fluid specified for a full change (and I'm reluctant to use multi-rated fluids), but it matters much less when you're adding such a small amount.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Ford came out with a TSB not to use multi-purpose (mercon, and mercon V) ATFs.
 
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Old May 4, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Ford came out with a TSB not to use multi-purpose (mercon, and mercon V) ATFs.
Bob,

What is the number of the TSB?

I cannot locate anything of this sort poking around the TSBs on-site.

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Old May 4, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Bob,

What is the number of the TSB?

I cannot locate anything of this sort poking around the TSBs on-site.

Steve
Steve,

It's TSB-01-15-7
 
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I cannot believe that adding less than 1 quart to the whole system could instantly "poison" the transmission, but if that's what the TSB says, then I stand corrected.

I had hoped to alleviate panic by the perfectionists among us. As I said, a complete change is a different story.
 
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Steve,

It's TSB-01-15-7
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's not in the online TSBs here. I wonder if it's been superceded or just didn't get included in the local database.

OTOH, in the ATF chart from 11/04 available on the Motorcraft site, there are specific warnings not to interchange fluids, not to mix fluids, and that dual-use rated fluids in a Mercon-specced tranny "may cause transmission damage."

I'm sure, more than for any reason, this is just to avoid liability ....

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I should have specified: I did a complete change (or close to). I added 13 quarts to bring it back to full. It's my fault for not paying enough attention, but at this point I'm thinking that even if I go back and do another "full change" with Mercon, I'd still have enough V left over to do whatever damage it was going to do anyways. I guess I'll roll the dice on the whole shabang. I can only hope that SHO is right, and that it's a liability issue. I know first hand that Ford will spend more energy/resources making excuses than they will fixing obvious problems (door skin cracks, lock actuators, etc). Maybe they're trying to leave more "outs" for future obvious mistakes.
 
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You really need to do acomplete flush of the system and put the specified fluid in. A proper flush will get the existing fluid out. Use the specified fluid for flushing. May cost alittle but not as much as a rebuild
 
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