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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Is there a way to end digital piracy by making a digital file (for music, books, movies) such that it's possible to "rent" or "buy/sell" them just like tangible books and DVDs.

For example, a consumer can simply download a movie directly from the studio into his laptop. Then after he is done with it, he can sell that file just like a DVD. The file will be transfered to an online broker (store) which buys that file. Then, that file can be sold to another person by downloading.

But the original person will no longer have the file once he uploads it to an online store.

This way, we can have "digital properties" without worrying about wear and tear.

Is there any technologies like this or is it just not practical? (due to hackers and pirates).This way, after I buy an song from Itunes, I can resell it to someone else after I get tired of it.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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It really isn't practical. There would have to be some kind of database that controlled the ownership/validity of each file. Not only would that be a programming nightmare, but it would take an incredible amount of processing and memory. One more reasonable suggestion might be to have sort of a netflix-type network where users can buy a program, install it on there computer, pay a monthly fee, and find programs that way, but there are still ways people can find to change the source code or the file permissions to allow for it to be pirated.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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it'll never work. one could simply download the orignal file, make a copy of it to the hard drive or burn to a cd/dvd. after "selling" the file you'll still have a copy of it.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Well, the way I figure it, if anybody would try to do something like that, they would make them read-only files. Can't be copied, can't be modified, just opened so you can watch the movie. But like I said, somebody would find a way to change the permissions so you could copy it.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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"Self Corrupting Software" is a possible.

If "A" is true, then subroutine "B" is not required.

If "C" is true, then goto line???? and execute "D".

I imagine the lines of code would be very simple, but the hassles would be incredible.

And yet:

"I told Orville, and I told Wilbur - THAT thing will never get off the ground..."


paint shop pro (note lower case in title) had a self corrupting program embedded in it that made images that the trial version was used on inaccessable after the trial period ran out.

It is why I hate it and will NOT recommend it to anyone.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Well, the way I figure it, if anybody would try to do something like that, they would make them read-only files. Can't be copied, can't be modified, just opened so you can watch the movie. But like I said, somebody would find a way to change the permissions so you could copy it.
theres always ways around stuff, modern dvds come with anti copy devices, but the newest generation of software can copy them anyways.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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That kind of restriction on files will never fly with people. I know that if I purchase a song, movie, etc, I want to be able to use it wherever and whenver I want. After all, I paid for it.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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My guess is that it's technically possible. But I don't think any studio or want to do this since they hate the used CD/DVD market already. It doesn't make them any money so there is no incentive to invest in anything like this.
 
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