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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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I'm building a set like on my 75 (just the standard flames 18-24 inchs) for my sons 78 Bronco. I posted a picture on my user gallery, Little Black, name Broncoman85, I sure could use some help with the identity of the component in the lower right had corner of the flamebox. Thanks Whit
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 12:19 AM
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I dont have a clue what that is can you tell me more about it?Is what you need a way to fire a ignition coil?



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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 12:43 AM
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I've been running this box on one truck or the other for about 6 or 7 years...has worked great...its a Superflames kit I got at the F100 Nats in Pigeon Forge swap meet. I've built a couple of sets of flamethrowers different ways but this thing has been ultra reliable. I'm gonna post a pic of the outside of the box, I do know the things (cant rem what to call them, you know brain fade) on the top came from a dodge electronic ignition. From what I've read they act as a points firing steadly as long as the switch is on. And yes what I'm needing to fire the coils at the exhaust tip. I've tried the toggle switch straight to the coil but its aggrevating to have to sit the flipping the switch repeatedly to keep the plugs firing. With the setup I have on the 75, now, I can flip the switch and as long as the engine is spinning (down to about 1000 rpm) I can hit the propane and kerosene injection 2 or 3 times before I have to flip the switch back over to the engine and build the rpm back up. Whit
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 12:58 AM
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Posted a couple more pics of the flame box in the user gallery. Any help would be nice, thanks Whit
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 01:00 AM
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A couple of years ago I was trying to creat some "frankenstein movie"
type effects.And I used a ign module and coil from a EEC equiped ford with a crank trigger . It has the brown connector.I made a simple circuit to pulse the ign module at a high frequency.And it would throw great sparks.I think this would work good for what you want.If you are interested I will send you the diagram.


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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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Not real sure what you mean by "sparks"? Right now I can get 35 feet of fire from the tailpipes (exiting from the bumper). Its a 3 stage deal first stage gives about 20 inchs of flame..cool but not enough. Second stage with propane blows 6-8 foot of fire (you dont wanna be standing anywhere near) and the 3rd stage with kerosene under 135 psi air pressure will hit 35 feet out. I'm playing with the idea of blowing some type powders into the exhaust to get colors...just for the hell of it....
I'm just wanting to build the first stage on my sons (soon to be 16) Bronco with 9 inchs of lift and 39.5 superswamper STS's.
By all means I'd love to have the diagram...I'm always looking to improve on this idea...I'm looking at a porsche fuel pump that puts out 475 psi to try to get around 65-75 feet of fire.
I just finished building a relay panel and new control panel with smaller switchs to avoid the high amp big switch problem. Brought my control panel down from 2X5 to 1 1/2X3 with LED indicators. and will install it tomorrow and see how I like it.
As I was saying I'd really like the diagram...please send to NevrsayNevr77@Hotmail.com.
Thanks Whit
PS I'm going to put the same setup flamethrowers on my 77 F250 with 22 inchs lift 800 horse 429 and 44 superswamper boogers.

 
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Sparks from a ign coil.


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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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Hey Bronco man do u have any idea were i could find a kit like?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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There are several places you can get a partial kit, they won't sell you a complete kit because of liability issues. Just do a search for flamethrowers and ignore the military type sites, all they wanna do is talk about weapons...don't get me wrong I'm big on Colt 1911's but thats about the only weapon of my choice. If you'll follow a few links from the automotive flamethrower websites you'll find 4 or 5 places that sell the basic kit....about 18-24 inchs of flame with the engine running. The box I have is a Superflames its got a # on it, I haven't called it yet because I want to build my own box. The # is 417-831-5874, the company name is Coxster Electronics in Springfield MO. I'm not sure if they are still in business...mmmm....think I'll do a search for it and see if they have a site when I get off here. Like I said I just wanna build my own. Later Whit
 
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 07-Apr-02 AT 07:19 PM (EST)]Here is how you can use a Ford ign module to fire a coil.It uses a 555
timer chip two resistors and a capicator to send pulses to the ign coil.The variable resistor allows you to vary the frequency to get the best spark. All these parts are cheap and you can get them at any electronic supply shop.And you can can build it on a small piece
of perforated board.If you need any more detail let me know.

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Old Apr 7, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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I forgot to say that this uses the ign module with the brown conector
from a crank trigger system from the late 70s or early 80s.The circuit could probably be changed to use a blue conector module.Also you can fire a coil with a 555 and a transistor but it does not work as good



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