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cleco temporary fasteners
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cleco temporary fasteners
I was looking at some kwikloc temporary fasteners (clecos) and see they come in different sizes,= ranging from 1/8 to 1/4 inch. Is it better to get an assortment, or should I go all one size? if so, what size is better?
Also, anyone have any experance with the kwikloc brand?
Also, anyone have any experance with the kwikloc brand?
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WillyB -
I don't have any experience with the "Kwikloc" brand, but use clecos all the time. They are indipensible for fitting stuf together temporarily. I scrounged an assortment (#40, #30, 3/16) from work, but usually just standardize my work to use 1/8 as pilot holes for whatever is going in later. Where I have a hole pattern of 1/4 bolts (etc) I just use 1/8 to match drill everything. Then when I drill the first hole out to size, I put a 1/4 bolt/nut thru it to hold that location while I remove other clecos to drill them. Works fine. I haven't really needed other sizes.
When I added the second wall to the bed, I used 1/8 clecos to hold it temporarily for a long time. Drove the truck around that way, too. Later, when I welded it up, the clecos held it all until welded. Then I just weld filled the cleco holes.
I don't have any experience with the "Kwikloc" brand, but use clecos all the time. They are indipensible for fitting stuf together temporarily. I scrounged an assortment (#40, #30, 3/16) from work, but usually just standardize my work to use 1/8 as pilot holes for whatever is going in later. Where I have a hole pattern of 1/4 bolts (etc) I just use 1/8 to match drill everything. Then when I drill the first hole out to size, I put a 1/4 bolt/nut thru it to hold that location while I remove other clecos to drill them. Works fine. I haven't really needed other sizes.
When I added the second wall to the bed, I used 1/8 clecos to hold it temporarily for a long time. Drove the truck around that way, too. Later, when I welded it up, the clecos held it all until welded. Then I just weld filled the cleco holes.
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I agree with RJ, they are indespensible. I too, try to standardize with just one size-I think most of mine are 1/8". They also make a side clamp that is very handy if you can get to the sides of overlapping pieces. I use those things to clamp everything together before adding fasteners. It's like having 3 or 4 extra fingers or maybe a second left hand. Sorry, no experience with the kwikloc brand.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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I use the 1/8 cleco. On some of the patches I use body panel glue. Drill a 1/8 hole, counter sink, use cleco to hold while the rest of the panel is fitted.
Apply glue, place panel with counter sunk rivets. grind any rivets that stick up, skim fill, primer.
Apply glue, place panel with counter sunk rivets. grind any rivets that stick up, skim fill, primer.
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I don't know about the name brands, but these seem to be from a reputible store and are only $0.35 each. The end clamps are more expensive ($2.00) and the pliers are $7.00.
I found them while I was checking the price to see what to bid on a set of them on eBay. I just wish someone had experance with the brand. The price seems cheap to me.
I found them while I was checking the price to see what to bid on a set of them on eBay. I just wish someone had experance with the brand. The price seems cheap to me.
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Just for cpmpairison
This is a speciality Place Thier 1/8 Cleco's are $0.43
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...heetholder.php
This is a speciality Place Thier 1/8 Cleco's are $0.43
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...heetholder.php
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There is a film clip you see in WW2 movies that shows a fighter plane crashing on the deck of a carrier (I think it was used in the movie Midway) - anyway, he spins on the deck and smashes into the island before he stops. The entire nose, including the engine, is knocked off and flys across the deck.
I saw the original Navy film clip - it was a real crash - as part of a QA thing. Just before the plane caught on fire you could see the entire firewall was held in place by clecos - the builders had forgot to finish that part of the plane.
Don't know if that is why the engine and nose fell off during the crash, or even if that was a bad thing, but it does show how tough these temporary fasteners are. The plane had seen combat and had survived other carrier landings and they were still holding!
I saw the original Navy film clip - it was a real crash - as part of a QA thing. Just before the plane caught on fire you could see the entire firewall was held in place by clecos - the builders had forgot to finish that part of the plane.
Don't know if that is why the engine and nose fell off during the crash, or even if that was a bad thing, but it does show how tough these temporary fasteners are. The plane had seen combat and had survived other carrier landings and they were still holding!
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You can't beat the system specially when fitting a panel. In another post you were asking about metal forming, using these types of clamps allows you to really form fit the panel and keep it in place as you tack it in.
I remember seeing the Brand name "Kwickloc" before, never used them as my supply of USAF provided clecos are sufficient.
If there are any GSA/OSI types monitoring this site I deny everything.
I remember seeing the Brand name "Kwickloc" before, never used them as my supply of USAF provided clecos are sufficient.
If there are any GSA/OSI types monitoring this site I deny everything.
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Originally Posted by WillyB
I was looking at some kwikloc temporary fasteners (clecos) and see they come in different sizes,= ranging from 1/8 to 1/4 inch. Is it better to get an assortment, or should I go all one size? if so, what size is better?
Also, anyone have any experance with the kwikloc brand?
Also, anyone have any experance with the kwikloc brand?
Two sets of pliers can be useful also.
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