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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Lead ???

Just wondering if anyone uses Lead subsitutes in the old Trucks or does everyone Just use Unleaded. If I don't use a Lead subsitute can I hurt anything.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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it depends. do you have hardened valve seats? they still sell 110 octane leaded race gas here for 4.99 a gallon. i sometimes fill up with that.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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I don't know the guy I picked up my truck from had just rebuilt the 240ci I guess I will call him and find out.

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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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It shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't pull long & hard with your engine.

If you do run prolonged higher RPMs, toting heavy loads up long hills often it could become a problem. Seats only sink or erode when the engines are overtaxed, and they seldom are affected under normal, non-commercial, driving conditions.

Remember there was sometning known as White Gas produced by Amoco "Back In The Day" and it was unleaded as well as quite popular because it burned cleaner than lower octane leaded fuels of the day did.

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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FordBoypete
It shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't pull long & hard with your engine.

If you do run prolonged higher RPMs, toting heavy loads up long hills often it could become a problem. Seats only sink or erode when the engines are overtaxed, and they seldom are affected under normal, non-commercial, driving conditions.

Remember there was sometning known as White Gas produced by Amoco "Back In The Day" and it was unleaded as well as quite popular because it burned cleaner than lower octane leaded fuels of the day did.

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I agree with FBP, my 390 in my 66 4x4 was last rebuild when leaded gas was still around, so I did not put in the hard seats in it. After unleaded was all you could get I was explained the same as FBP was saying here. The truck is still running very good still.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Thanks for the info I treat her the a baby no pulling or high RPM'S have'nt even had her past 55 mph. I think I should be OK Thanks again.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kongslibakken
Thanks for the info I treat her the a baby no pulling or high RPM'S have'nt even had her past 55 mph. I think I should be OK Thanks again.
Are you crazy, treating a Ford truck like a sissy will kill it off quickly. Take that dress and painted nails off that old Ford and let it live.

Ford truck were built to work. IMHO

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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lol, now the wife is yelling because you made me laugh, John.
 
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A stock 240/300 is so restricted that I doubt you could ever lug one and get the heads that hot anyhow. Heating up the heads occurs with early detonation, as in "pinging". You *could* try driving up a hill in 4th at 20 mph, but even that would have to be at 1/2 throttle, and the ensuing lean mix would keep you from detonating. Hmmmm....

I remember this quesiton coming up frequently in the inline forum and over at fordsix -- general consesus was that you don't have to worry. If burning unleaded causes you trouble, it was trouble that was going to happen soon anyhow.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Are you crazy, treating a Ford truck like a sissy will kill it off quickly. Take that dress and painted nails off that old Ford and let it live.

Ford truck were built to work. IMHO

John
No offense, but I feel sorry for your engine Kongslibakken. Any engine that never sees high cylinder pressure to make the rings seal right is destined to be an oil burner sooner or later, and have low compression from poor ring seal, which will contaminate your oil too. All engines, regardless of what vehicle they came in, is meant to work, and it wouldnt hurt a bit to run her through the gears once in awhile.

Just my .02.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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I agree it is great to clean out the cobwebs every so often, it prevents all the things everybody above says. Also it certainly won't hurt it to run it out now & then.
My statement about high RPM over a long period pulling a load is like pulling a two axle equipment trailer with a bobcat on it over the contentenantal divide a couple times a month with a light weight engine. . . .
I used to "Dust off my 240 daily". It ran UNL 87 Octane 100,000 without problems,
But it was only pulling itself, plus our roads are flat here, so no real load to it. . . .

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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I have a '65 F-100 and when I don't have a lead substitute in the tank, it makes a lot of noise at the valves. The lead substitute quites it down a lot. I'm not sure if it really helps but I know that the valve seats haven't been touched in the 40 years it's been around.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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a few years back I had my motor rebuilt and had to pay another 100 bucks to have the valves hardened. I did this because the valves were acctually sucked up into the heads and cracked the heads.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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If you have the heads off it is a good idea to have hardened exhaust valve seats installed. Otherwise drive the truck and have a happy life!
 
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