1973-1974 I believe it was. Lines around the block and big Oil Company profits.

-1bigsteve (o:

 

It hit me hard in the wallet, I'm a college student and I had to take my expo back to the shop to get it worked on under warranty, and the guy wouldn't let anyone but himself do it, so I had to drive back home(100 miles+). Grabbed my ranger which had no gas in it and had to fill it up. 20 gallon tank at 3.19 a gallon, I spent 61.75 to fill it up. And to top that all off we had a family emergency with a car accident, but thats another story. Just been a rough week all together. Hope it takes a quick turn for the better soon.

 

My family lives in North La. They are being overrun with refugees. The news isn't reporting the crime caused by the refugees in other parts of the state.Citys in this part of the state are reporting robberys & shootings by the refugees. My mom & sisters live about a mile from a Baptist camp full of them. They fear that they may be attacked by some of them. Its sick that this storm is bringing out the worst in people. The state needs to be put under martial law IMO.

 

i was both hits. please don't talk about lines. never mind tempers.

 

Just out of curiosity, with regards to reopening the gas distribution system, will there be a prioritisation of which parts of the country gets gas/diesel? I assume the oil companies will get whatever they can open, as every place currently affected will need stuff. But, if there are expected problems with distribution of refined product, will some areas have priority? Put another way, every place currently running short assumes they will get a regular supply once electricity, etc, comes back on line - is this a good assumption, or will farm areas, metropolitan areas, or whatever, have a priority?

 

It just shows the heart of the oil companies(they have none) how can the price of gas go up immediately when the news broke about the storm, wasn't the gas in the stations tanks already bought at a lower price. god bless all the souls effected by this, my heart is saddened by what I see.

 

I think Ca. Attorney General Bill Lockyer is doing an investigation on gas station owners gouging the price of gasoline.

If you start seeing gas station owners driving new SUVs and lots of bling bling, then you know.

 

Once the water clears and electricity is back on I think the areas being cleaned up and rebuilt willl have the highest priority for fuel. They need it. I know we need it too but you can't haul lumber on a bicycle. Be ready to see lumber prices jump big time.

 

Can't wait for that one! (As I am getting ready to refinish a basement)

 

Let's see- 25% import duty currently on Canadian lumber. That was a good idea. not

 

Never mind lumber, if people in this country have any sense at all firearm and ammunition prices will rise. The recognition of how people react durring a breakdown of law & order is truly enlightening. Take this natural disastor and multiply it by thousands to understand how things will be in the event of a meteior strike or nuclear terrorist attack. Do not make the mistake of believing the Gov't or anyone else will be there to save you. Prepare accorrdingly or remember reading this as you lie face down while a gang of thugs does what they will with you and your loved ones.

 

I have plent of ammo, for each and every thing that goes boom in my arsenal!

 

mtncrawler Never mind lumber, if people in this country have any sense at all firearm and ammunition prices will rise. The recognition of how people react durring a breakdown of law & order is truly enlightening. Take this natural disastor and multiply it by thousands to understand how things will be in the event of a meteior strike or nuclear terrorist attack. Do not make the mistake of believing the Gov't or anyone else will be there to save you. Prepare accorrdingly or remember reading this as you lie face down while a gang of thugs does what they will with you and your loved ones.

I think 9/11 demonstrated clearly that the law-and-order problem seems to be unique to NO. In NY, admittedly much to my own surprise, everyone worked together. From the increasing stories I'm reading, it seems that the few authorities in NO immediately after the flooding started may have inadvertantly helped the disintigration process along. Corrupt officials, combined with a large criminal element and one of the poorest populations in the US proved to be a volatile, unpleasant mix.

 

From The New Yorker:

"...There is a final, even deeper recess of the New Orleans mind, where a constant awareness of the possibility of the breakdown of the social order resides. The televised scenes of civil collapse that have so horrified the country have registered with New Orleanians as the awful realization of an ever-present set of fears. It isn’t just that New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country; the city has repeatedly been the scene of armed conflict, most notably during Reconstruction and the governorship of Huey Long. Walker Percy’s 1971 novel “Love in the Ruins,” set on the Gulf Coast outside New Orleans, imagined a scene not too far from (though not nearly as bad as) what we’ve seen for the past week, with armed bands roaming the countryside, columns of smoke rising on the horizon, and people hiding out in half-destroyed buildings. Thirty years earlier, in a memoir called “Lanterns on the Levee,” Percy’s cousin William Alexander Percy proudly conjured up the echt-Bourbon picture of himself facing down unruly homeless African-Americans in the wake of the 1927 flood. The dramatic weather alone is not sufficient to explain the thinness of the veneer of civilization in the Gulf South. A society that doesn’t deliver for its many poor people, most of whom are black, doesn’t generate a lot of trust and cohesion. The Biblical weather events reveal a deep civic weakness that makes violence a constant possibility."

 

I feel it is worthy of a note here that NO is right now a example of the failure of the welfare state brought on by big goverment, and proof that big goverment can not infact meet all your needs, the fact that welfare has created a city with a 60% poverty level, and a mentality that the world owes me a living so I will take what I want is the predecessor to what is now happening in NO, and it should be noted that Mississippi, and parts of Alabama were hit just as hard and parts hit even harder yet in those areas they have been cleaning up, and people are already starting to look into rebuilding without the violence, rape, looting, and other issues. The aid has been flowing to those areas since day one. Yet in LA they were not getting aid and it's not a racial motivated issue like some would like you to believe but rather also an example of the corruption of the goverment, and failure of the the same goverment on a local level, there was lots of aid on it's way before the storm had even totally subsided, but that aid was turned away at the state line by louisina officials. why you ask? well the state officials wanted the people that were coming with doctors, and other relief workers plus medical, and other supplies to pay for a "permit" to bring aid into the state (I got this from a person that was with one of the convoys trying to bring supplies into the area) that was to be in an amount of around 10% of the charitable donations givin to the group coming in somewhere asked to pay $10,000 or more for this "permit" and for those that want to say it's the racially motivated federal goverment taht is wanting to kill them off, these "officials" were the black leaders of your fine state worring more about padding thier pockets than the welfare, and safety of the people living there, and this continued until the national gaurd, and military was brought in. So if the leaders of the state are this corrupt, then why should the citizens be any different since that is thier example to follow.