Wrong hitch from trailer salesman?
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Wrong hitch from trailer salesman?
I bought a dump trailer with a 10K GVWR, for an '04 F350 with factory 12.5K receiver.
Sales reccommends a HD 10K drop hitch/ball.
Finally loaded the trailer up (with cement sidewalk). It was not overweight, but was close: 9600# or so. Rode awful. Turns out, max is 6000# without a WD hitch. So, why would sales not reccommend a WD hitch from the beginning? Should I upgrade to take max weight (e.g., over 6K?)
Sales reccommends a HD 10K drop hitch/ball.
Finally loaded the trailer up (with cement sidewalk). It was not overweight, but was close: 9600# or so. Rode awful. Turns out, max is 6000# without a WD hitch. So, why would sales not reccommend a WD hitch from the beginning? Should I upgrade to take max weight (e.g., over 6K?)
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How bad did the rear end sag? Depending on how you loaded the trailer, you could have had almost a ton of deadweight on the ball. What type of brakes does the trailer have? If it's surge, not all WD systems are compatible with this.
Steve
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The backend of the truck didn't sag really, and the trailer was well-balanced. Problem was in the handling and feel of the trip. It felt "squishy". Way more than I thought it would behind a 350.
Also wondering if I'm legal over 6K pounds of trailer without a LD hitch?
Thanks!
The Brimar has electric brakes. Seem quite adequate too.
Also wondering if I'm legal over 6K pounds of trailer without a LD hitch?
Thanks!
The Brimar has electric brakes. Seem quite adequate too.
Last edited by mrc59; Jun 7, 2005 at 03:22 PM. Reason: re brakes
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With electric brakes you can use just about any WD system you want. I sure would add it; if you have/cause an accident while towing that trailer and you're way over the deadweight rating, you could open up a big Pandora's Box of legal problems......
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If the trailer was loaded to 9600 lbs and the back of the truck didn't sag hardly, I'd say the trailer was loaded with too little weight on the tongue, which contributed to your squirelly ride. A 10K trailer needs 1000-1500 lbs on the hitch. With that much tongue weight, you'll likely need a weight distributing hitch.
If your hitch is only rated to 6K with a regular weight carrying hitch, you need the weight distrubiting hitch for it.
If your hitch is only rated to 6K with a regular weight carrying hitch, you need the weight distrubiting hitch for it.
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Originally Posted by mrc59
I bought a dump trailer with a 10K GVWR, for an '04 F350 with factory 12.5K receiver.
Sales reccommends a HD 10K drop hitch/ball.
So, why would sales not reccommend a WD hitch from the beginning? Should I upgrade to take max weight (e.g., over 6K?)
Sales reccommends a HD 10K drop hitch/ball.
So, why would sales not reccommend a WD hitch from the beginning? Should I upgrade to take max weight (e.g., over 6K?)
As posted before, make sure your tires are inflated to the max when using your trailer.
John
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my work has a bri-mar dump trailer which we cant use a WD hitch on due to the hydraulic box on the tongue.
we also have a leaf inclosure and vacuum that bolts onto the top of the trailer for leaf clean ups in the fall. the tongue weight without anything in the trailer is over 1000 lbs. any truck that pulls it does squat alittle but still eaisly handles the weight.
just make sure to use a solid hitch and a good ball.
we also have a leaf inclosure and vacuum that bolts onto the top of the trailer for leaf clean ups in the fall. the tongue weight without anything in the trailer is over 1000 lbs. any truck that pulls it does squat alittle but still eaisly handles the weight.
just make sure to use a solid hitch and a good ball.
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I agree with SoCal that the squimish ride was probley due to not enough weight on the tongue. It like loading 200 24-foot 1x6's on a 16 foot trailer. Boy did that get squirrly. Ah leson learned.
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