outer tie rod replacement
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outer tie rod replacement
Hi Folks,
I have reviewed the manual on its replacement of the tierod.Seems simple
enough..But any tips would be helpful..Its spring time ..to to do car repairs
as needed..thanks
I have reviewed the manual on its replacement of the tierod.Seems simple
enough..But any tips would be helpful..Its spring time ..to to do car repairs
as needed..thanks
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Just mark the position of the tie-rod end on the tie rod with white paint then remove the tie-rod end and install the new one in the same position also take the van into a shop for an alignment as soon as possible.
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I love this website...
I replaced the tie rods yesterday...
Start to finish... about an hour..
The only trouble you may have is getting the tapered pin to pop loose.
I just happened to have a pully puller that worked just fine.
(I have a pickel fork somewhere but the puller worked fine)
Two pair of good vice grips will also help in spinning the outer tie-rod off the inner tie-rod
The outer tie rods were $15 each at Pep Boys
Someone said Autozone will loan you the puller if you buy the tie-rods from them
Like was said earlier... Mark the threads of the inner tie-rod at the edge of the outer tie rod once you break the lock nut loose.
Then run over and get the toe in set... Soon...
It does not take long to ruin a set of tires if the toe in is way off
I replaced the tie rods yesterday...
Start to finish... about an hour..
The only trouble you may have is getting the tapered pin to pop loose.
I just happened to have a pully puller that worked just fine.
(I have a pickel fork somewhere but the puller worked fine)
Two pair of good vice grips will also help in spinning the outer tie-rod off the inner tie-rod
The outer tie rods were $15 each at Pep Boys
Someone said Autozone will loan you the puller if you buy the tie-rods from them
Like was said earlier... Mark the threads of the inner tie-rod at the edge of the outer tie rod once you break the lock nut loose.
Then run over and get the toe in set... Soon...
It does not take long to ruin a set of tires if the toe in is way off
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Two things One it was recommended at autozone Leave the tires on instead of lifting it off the gound.That way you keep the wheels alligned.There does seem good amount
of room to loosen the rod.And Two It seems to me to loosen the rod first then remove
the tie rod end then rescrew to the makings for what I would think the same allignment.?? what do you think ??
of room to loosen the rod.And Two It seems to me to loosen the rod first then remove
the tie rod end then rescrew to the makings for what I would think the same allignment.?? what do you think ??
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A:While leaving the tires on the ground sounds good in theory, in practice you will still need an alignment because you are replacing old, worn out tie rod ends. Leaving the tires down means you are putting the toe-in back to the the worn out specs. (Long winded way of saying bad idea.)
B: Loosen the lock nut then put it lightly back against the tie rod. Run a piece of masking/electrical tape on the other side of the locknut to mark its limit. Run the new ends back to the nut, tighten and drive to the alignment shop. You are dealing with toe in/out measurements of 1/16 inch or less, so you can appreciate how worn ends can greatly throw off these measurements. I've tried measuring everything I can think of when replaceing these ends or steering racks and no matter how careful the toe is always way off.
B: Loosen the lock nut then put it lightly back against the tie rod. Run a piece of masking/electrical tape on the other side of the locknut to mark its limit. Run the new ends back to the nut, tighten and drive to the alignment shop. You are dealing with toe in/out measurements of 1/16 inch or less, so you can appreciate how worn ends can greatly throw off these measurements. I've tried measuring everything I can think of when replaceing these ends or steering racks and no matter how careful the toe is always way off.
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There is no way around getting the toe-in re-set.
No matter how careful you are, the wear of the old parts, the difference in different manufacturers castings will still require an alighment.
If you ask to have the toe-in set and not for an alignment.. it is much cheaper.
(As long as you are comfortable that your caster and camber are ok)
No matter how careful you are, the wear of the old parts, the difference in different manufacturers castings will still require an alighment.
If you ask to have the toe-in set and not for an alignment.. it is much cheaper.
(As long as you are comfortable that your caster and camber are ok)
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I am almost ready to begin my project..Question is should I do the other side while I am at it ??
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If you have the "molded rubber" style of outer tie rod end, definitely replace them both. I've seen four of them seized so badly that they would audibly squeak when turning. This style looks like the steel end is a bowl and the rubber was poured in.
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Seems like steel for sure..Last question please Should I replace the rod it self..Seems strong but age and stress on the metal makes me wonder...But then again makes me wonder about the other side too..thanks
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Outer tie rods $15 each...
While the van is up and the front end is apart it just makes sense to replace them now.
If you replace them later you will need to get it aligned again
(Toe in only) but still $ and your time waiting for it..
While the van is up and the front end is apart it just makes sense to replace them now.
If you replace them later you will need to get it aligned again
(Toe in only) but still $ and your time waiting for it..
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Most alignment shops won't charge any less for setting toe only, because the setup time is the same. But I agree that it's generally a good idea to replace them both if they're cheap enough.
Ford put some really bad tie rod ends on Escorts, Tauruses, Aerostars, and Rangers for a number of years. I've seen them shot at 40k miles.
Ford put some really bad tie rod ends on Escorts, Tauruses, Aerostars, and Rangers for a number of years. I've seen them shot at 40k miles.
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