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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornOwner
Good Luck to all those experimenters!!!
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Agreed. I'm experimenting with other things, so I'll leave the acetone to others - for now.

I do hope it works out well. Anything that will help it run better is something I am all for.

As for lubricity, I'll be switching to biodiesel in the near future. I'm helping to set up a small bio-diesel reactor. When it is done, I won't worry about lubricity anymore.

If acetone can be proven to be harmless to seals and hoses, then biodiesel and acetone might be the perfect combination.
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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spitball & clux,
Instead of saying 'well somebody needs to. . . . . . .' why don't y'all just do this blind test, or whatever test you want to come up with.

I forget the point of the ad, the one where lots of people are standing around watching water run in an unused sink, then somebody else finally comes along and turns it off. That's what your posts remind me of, be a Nike instead guys, Just do it!

Your idea of the regular driver shouldn't be the driver doesn't hold water, if anything, the regular driver should be the one doing the testing.

KEY- Any testing needs to be over an extended period of time, before , during, and after acetone. Like months worth of driving, records being kept the entire time. That would be a test with results I'd like to see.

Longhornowner,
Most of your points/concerns have been covered earlier in this thread if you have the stamina and vision to read through the whole thing.
Plus numerous other 'acetone' threads.

Kwikkordead, and other diesel users,
How many ounces of acetone per 10 gallons fuel are you using?
From what I've found, 2 ounces (at most) per 10 gallons of gasoline should be the MAX for gas, but diesel should be at a higher (double ?) amount. Is this the conclusion you have come to.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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I just refilled, and put in 6oz to my 98 gallon Transfer Flow Aux tank and nothing in the already spiked factory tank that recieved 4oz for 39 gallons.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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Hey Kwik, did you notice on that Lubdev site that he said warm air intake gets better mileage than cold air? Anyone have an opinion on this?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Hey there Mr. Ken B, doing it now, but thanks for giving me that extra moral incentive. I would have never tested on my own if it was not for your patience, love, and kind words. Thanks again for all your support...
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by voodoolord
Hey Kwik, did you notice on that Lubdev site that he said warm air intake gets better mileage than cold air? Anyone have an opinion on this?
It's a lot easier for fuel to vaporize in warmer air than cold air. Less fuel molicules wasted out the tailpipe that way.
There's other factors too. All the modern gas engines have at least one oxygen sensor on them installed in the exhaust manifold or down pipe. It's function is to measure the amount of leftover oxygen in the exhaust stream. It needs to be a certain amount or the fuel/air ratio is not what they call stoicometric (stoiciometric?). Right at 14.7 to 1. That gives the best burn leaving very little CO, HC, NOX, etc.
With colder air coming in the air mass or density is greater, meaning more oxygen available, meaning more left over in the exhaust. The o2 sensor will read that and send a signal, the ECU will richen the mixture slightly to compensate. But then that means more energy released upon each combustion event so less throttle required to maintain speed.
But I think the biggest factor is simply the ability of the fuel to vaporize and burn in a warmer envirnment. Fuel in liquid form will not burn no matter how small the droplet, it MUST be a gas, not liquid.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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[QUOTE=KenB]spitball & clux,
Instead of saying 'well somebody needs to. . . . . . .' why don't y'all just do this blind test, or whatever test you want to come up with.

I forget the point of the ad, the one where lots of people are standing around watching water run in an unused sink, then somebody else finally comes along and turns it off. That's what your posts remind me of, be a Nike instead guys, Just do it!

Your idea of the regular driver shouldn't be the driver doesn't hold water, if anything, the regular driver should be the one doing the testing.

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I'm not testing it because:

1-I don't believe it is really giving the supposed benefits, from what I've read here and on other forums I think it is mostly placebo effect. If the benefits were real, every fuel manufacturer would already be adding acetone at the plant.

2-I've worked with acetone a little bit and am uncomfortable with what the effects are going to be on plastics in the fuel system and any water that might be in there.

3-I am getting a modest mileage increase already with Powerservice and don't have to worry about what it is doing to my engine/fuel system.

I agree that the driver in any test should be the regular driver, they just shouldn't know when there is acetone in the tank for the results to be valid scientifically. Weeds out the previously mentioned "placebo effect" that way.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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I tried it today. Added 6 ounces to about half a tank and then filled the rest. I hope that mixxed it well enough. I have not noticed a difference in sound or anything else and have went about twenty miles. I did notice that I was driving smoother but I think it it might be because Im coming down with something ;(
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by voodoolord
Added 6 ounces to about half a tank and then filled the rest. I hope that mixxed it well enough. I have not noticed a difference in sound or anything else and have went about twenty miles.
6 ounces to what size tank???????????

This part is for all that may be doing or will do personal acetone testing.
Please don't expect INSTANT results, why would you any way?
Please refer back to earlier posts about this needs to be a LONG TERM thing.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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38 gallon tank
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I dont expect instant results, I know that it needs to go through the fuel system. Believe me I read every post and that whole writeup that Kwik posted the link for before I put any in.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Lightbulb In reply to why acetone is not blended in commercially.

In response to concerns as to why acetone is not blended commercially, my opinion is that its too expensive. I noticed at Walmart the other day that a gallon was $12 and that is not the lab tested pure kind that I use. On another note: I am wondering if there are other substances that can be blended into fuels as enhancers. Hoping there might be a few chemists about the site.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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After reading the whole post, it sounds like everyone wants to believe it's true and benefit from the possible effects of acetone. But no wants to volunteer their trucks to test it. Come on PSD Lovers, open up your fuel fill caps and pour in the estimated amount of acetone and drive.


Then let me know if it worked or not.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Talking Thanks for the comment

Appreciate the intelligent comment. Really helpful. We always strive to avoid Nebraska when traveling for some reason. Yet another one appears.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PSDLOVER
In response to concerns as to why acetone is not blended commercially, my opinion is that its too expensive. I noticed at Walmart the other day that a gallon was $12 and that is not the lab tested pure kind that I use.
I'm sure that's right, since at the prescribed rate of use that would increase the price of fuel by almost one cent per gallon.........
 
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