Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Using Acetone as a fuel additive

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 1, 2005 | 03:09 PM
  #46  
RickyBR's Avatar
RickyBR
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
From: Roaring Branch, PA
Originally Posted by clux
I'll make the prediction that you will have no problem getting the acetone to go into solution and stay there. I'll make another prediction that if you add some water and acetone, both will emulsify with the diesel.
That would be another good experiment. After the test to see if the acetone will mix or settle with the diesel, add water to the concoction, shake well and let stand.


Johnny8, I have no acetone right now so if you do this little experiment please post it for us and let us know your results.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 04:54 PM
  #47  
cookie88's Avatar
cookie88
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 13,653
Likes: 6
From: Cabot, Arkansas
FTE Emeritus
Originally Posted by johnny8
so what do you think would be the result of that happening... and if adverse... how much water would it take to cause that... i still think the water filter is gonna catch it... water will not combine with diesel fuel... and i don't think it will combine with acetone either... so if it can't for a solution with either the fuel or the acetone, how can it get around the water filter..?
Acetone will mix with water, but like diesel fuel and gasoline it is less dense that water, so the tiny amount of acetone you put in the tank should never see the bottom of the tank...assuming it is miscible with the fuel. Even if it isn't, the fuel tank pick-up is designed so that it will draw any water through the system and into the seperator, so there should be very little (if any) water present in the tank.

I think it's an interesting idea, but I'll be up here on the fence until you pioneers have a few months of data. The link Quik posted, while containing some very interesting points, has too much rhetoric for me to see it as much more than some guy venting on big oil.

Oh, and when you mix actone with water most of it will mix and disappear but for whatever reason it does not all mix and there are what appear to be some little "acetone bubbles" floating near the top.

Press on with pride, keep good records, and keep posting.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 05:34 PM
  #48  
pdkloste's Avatar
pdkloste
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
From: Yakima, WA
Interesting thread.... I, like Cookie,will sit patiently waiting for all of the results of your testing to come in.

Cookie.. I think that the bubbles that you see are concentrations of contaminants contained either in the water, acetone or the vessel you are mixing it in that will not go into solution. JMO
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 05:57 PM
  #49  
cookie88's Avatar
cookie88
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 13,653
Likes: 6
From: Cabot, Arkansas
FTE Emeritus
Probably right. Wasn't exactly a controlled test.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 06:42 PM
  #50  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
an update on my mileage... 78 miles on this tank, and i'm reading around 7/8 full, (not down to 3/4 yet)... on my last several tanks... i would be between 1/2 and 3/4 on the guage...
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 06:55 PM
  #51  
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead
Fleet Owner
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
The odometer just died on my old commuter Audi, so I can't give a report. My wife's Audi still works, I'll have to use that reading. The F-550 has a giant fuel supply (130 gallons) so I can't give a report for a while.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2005 | 07:50 PM
  #52  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
"Acetone will mix with water, but like diesel fuel and gasoline it is less dense that water, so the tiny amount of acetone you put in the tank should never see the bottom of the tank...assuming it is miscible with the fuel. Even if it isn't, the fuel tank pick-up is designed so that it will draw any water through the system and into the seperator, so there should be very little (if any) water present in the tank."

cookie88... interesting info... questions for you... does the acetone mix with water to form a solution.... if so.. could this solution pass through the water seperator filter... also... wouldn't the acetone have to settle to the bottom of the fuel tank to mix with any water in the tank... if this is true... wouldn't the acetone simply mix with the fuel in the tank first...? lots of questions... i'm not sure if any of them are relevent...
 
Reply
Old May 2, 2005 | 08:12 AM
  #53  
state's Avatar
state
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
I tried it. 35MPG before the acetone and 35MPG after. 1991 Mercury Tracer. Would only try it in something I don't care about.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old May 2, 2005 | 09:23 PM
  #54  
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead
Fleet Owner
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Thanks for the report state.
 
Reply
Old May 3, 2005 | 11:42 AM
  #55  
cookie88's Avatar
cookie88
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 13,653
Likes: 6
From: Cabot, Arkansas
FTE Emeritus
Best guesses.

does the acetone mix with water to form a solution
Yes.

could this solution pass through the water seperator filter
Yes.

wouldn't the acetone have to settle to the bottom of the fuel tank to mix with any water in the tank.
Yes.

wouldn't the acetone simply mix with the fuel in the tank first
Yes.

 
Reply
Old May 3, 2005 | 12:27 PM
  #56  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
cookie... sometimes i think you don't know how to say "no"....!
 
Reply
Old May 3, 2005 | 07:55 PM
  #57  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
just an update.... 185 miles, and still reading a little above 1/2 tank... haven't seen that in awhile...!
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2005 | 12:02 PM
  #58  
TexasEllis's Avatar
TexasEllis
Freshman User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Any more mileage updates? Anyone? Bueller?
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2005 | 09:22 PM
  #59  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
here it is people... 15.54 mpg on that tank... now, that doesn't seem like much... but remember... we're still on winter diesel here... also... the best i have done on the last 4 or 5 tanks is around 13.... usually i get 12 or so... 13 x 1.2 = 15.6... this is the 20% increase in mpg that the arcticle i read claimed you could get with diesel, i think i got somewhere around 22% increase and she seemed to run smoother with no smoke at all.... one other thing to know, my tires are 2 sizes larger than stock, and my speedo has not been reset.... i know that i got more than the 428 miles that was on my trip meter...so i think i actually got better than what i calculated. i wanted to compare that to what i was getting though so i was comparing apples to apples.. FYI, i have not gotten much over 300 miles on the meter on previous tanks of fuel... but i used 27 gallons on this run, and i normally use only 25 gallons...

just an update... i start the new job monday... the place is ten minutes up the road.. so... no more 100 miles a day....! i am going to run the next tank without acetone... to get a baseline reading... and then i'll try another one with... but it will take me awhile to burn a tank now, (thank GOD...!), so any new comparisons will be more around town driving... and will be awhile in getting the info to you guys... one other thing... i found a station locally that is selling diesel for $2.19...! haven't seen that in awhile..! sorry for such a long post... but lots of info for you guys to comment on...!
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2005 | 09:24 PM
  #60  
johnny8's Avatar
johnny8
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: New Hampshire
ps... FERRIS LIVES...!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:02 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE