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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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RanDawg, I'm not saying that everyone will look exactly alike, just that if parents were given the option, they'ed all want their children to have what is now "attractive" as a look. Of course no one would look identical, just many people would have similar traits. My mother is stocky and 5'1.5", and my father is 6'5" and slender. If given the option to pick and choose which of their genes went into me, theyed probably choose the ones that would most likely produce a son to fit the mold.
As to organ cloning, I still stand by it. That is of course if you can clone an organ or limb without the rest of the body. Cloning a whole body just for a handful of parts is disgusting. But if we can truly in the next couple decades coerce the body into growing new organs within itself, I'm all for it.

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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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>I think a few of you have seen too many of those old science
>fiction movies. Theres no way that anyone could clone a
>human being, and then harvest their organs. Once they
>become a human, they have rights just like every other
>human. This is no different than a test tube baby. It will
>have its own personality, and it wont necessailily look like
>the original. Its DNA will be the only thing that will be
>exactly like the donor. Furthermore nobody that needs an
>organ will have time to make then grow a clone into a mature
>adult in time to use it.
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>I only have 1 more word for all of ya.
>PARANOIA!!!!!!!!!
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>Tony Warren
>Nebraska

Well cloning for spare parts isn't against the law. Companies are woring on cloning parts (in this country) from stem cell research, not cloning for a birth. Parts grow faster and this might happen.



 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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>I bet the scientists can't wait to clone the most evil among
>us, in the name of science.

That group already said that they wouldn't hesitate at cloning Hitler. Something about it being the right thing to do and we would be denying Hitler his right to life if we didn't.



The group is completely wacked out.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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>RanDawg,
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>Just out of curiosity, what is your personal stand on
>abortion and women's rights?

I don't care to open the abortion can of worms right now. I've switched stances a couple times through the years and still haven't quite recovered from all the "discussing" we did in college. Seems like a 'lose-lose' situation. All I can say is, you never know how shoes fits, till you take a walk in them. As long as abortion is not state sponsored, in either case, I don't feel like I have blood on my hands. I am much more concerned about state sponsored executions, the taking of life with my tax dollars.

Its not relevant to cloning anyway, since all babies are wanted by definition. There is plenty of info out there concerning this very, very old issue. Everybody has already made their mind up and not much can be gained by discussing it. However, if someone starts a thread that seems intriguing, I might respond.

As far as women's rights go, this is easy. Every person has the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. No person should force their will on another except, perhaps, in defense of their own person, family, or possesions. There might be other exceptions, I just can't think of any right now.

 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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If given the
>option to pick and choose which of their genes went into me,
>theyed probably choose the ones that would most likely
>produce a son to fit the mold.

Would you sue if you didn't like the genes they picked for you?


>As to organ cloning, I still stand by it. That is of course
>if you can clone an organ or limb without the rest of the
>body. Cloning a whole body just for a handful of parts is
>disgusting. But if we can truly in the next couple decades
>coerce the body into growing new organs within itself, I'm
>all for it.

I 2nd that!
I hear they can grow new teeth for implantation now.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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>That group already said that they wouldn't hesitate at
>cloning Hitler. Something about it being the right thing to
>do and we would be denying Hitler his right to life if we
>didn't.

That rael guy said the jews would love to try hitler for war crimes!?!
This is absolutely preposterous, to think that a child from the dna of hitler would grow up to be just like hitler. Might as well grab his cousin and try him instead.

But the idea of purposely engineering a fallguy for the trial of war crimes is idiotic as well as evil.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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As for the Hitler on trial thing, anybody here ever heard of the Cadaver Trials? A roman Catholic pope, I forget who, but it was in the late 1600's, was put on trial 15 months after he died. They dug up his body, dressed him up, and sat him as a defendent, although they were considerate enough to provide someone to speak on his behalf.

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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>As for the Hitler on trial thing, anybody here ever heard of
>the Cadaver Trials? A roman Catholic pope, I forget who,
>but it was in the late 1600's, was put on trial 15 months
>after he died. They dug up his body, dressed him up, and
>sat him as a defendent, although they were considerate
>enough to provide someone to speak on his behalf.
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>Jared

That was Pope Formosus (891-896) who was exhumed and the tried by Pope Stephen VI in January 897. He was found guilty, duh, and then mutilated and had 3 fingers cut off and then buried in a common grave. Somebody then dug him up again and gave him a decent burial. Pope John IX (898-900) declared the actions of the 'cadaver court' annulled. And pope Stephen ended up in prison and was strangled.

I don't see what purpose all this served either.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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>>I bet the scientists can't wait to clone the most evil among
>>us, in the name of science.
>
>That group already said that they wouldn't hesitate at
>cloning Hitler. Something about it being the right thing to
>do and we would be denying Hitler his right to life if we
>didn't.

Actually what Rael said was he would clone Hitler because wouldn't the jews like to hold Hitler accountable for his actions and place him on trial?

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>
>The group is completely wacked out.
I agree with you there...



What I don't understand is it's Hitlers clone not him so what is that going to solve? I mean his clone didn't send millions to the gas chambers and torture of concentration camps....Just proves what his feeling are on clones...they are indisposable objects. SICKENING
 
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