Front Brake Line search
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Front Brake Line search
I just finished installing disc brakes (from a 74 F100) and lowered I-beams (~3") into my 1965 F100. I purchased new flexible brake lines for the front asking for 74 F100 lines but they're too short. I'm not sure if it's because of lowered I-beams or the disc brakes (or both). I spent a bunch of time at one parts store going through other vehicle brake lines but couldn't find anything longer with the same ends (although the parts guy wasn't too thrilled to be looking). I tried another parts store and he's bringing in a set that may work. Has anyone found a set that work? I figure ~3" longer than the stock 74 lines would be fine.
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You need the correct brackets from the later Frame.
Go yarding and unbolt two drivers side brackets as the passenger is rivited in place.
Cut off the rivit for the passenger side and bolt the replacment brackets on.
Easy Fix and no new hoses.
Garbz
You need the correct brackets from the later Frame.
Go yarding and unbolt two drivers side brackets as the passenger is rivited in place.
Cut off the rivit for the passenger side and bolt the replacment brackets on.
Easy Fix and no new hoses.
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If you move the brackets out toward the wheel you'll have to make your steel lines longer, in most cases.
Yep, stock hoses are too short when changing to discs.
It was reported to me (but not confirmed as I haven't personally tried it) that early 80s Dodge Charger (the fwd one) hoses will work. They supposedly have an extra bracket made onto them that you can cut off. Maybe worth a look.
Yep, stock hoses are too short when changing to discs.
It was reported to me (but not confirmed as I haven't personally tried it) that early 80s Dodge Charger (the fwd one) hoses will work. They supposedly have an extra bracket made onto them that you can cut off. Maybe worth a look.
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That would be me that used the 83-87 Charger hoses up front. I was able to keep the original frame brackets. Of course, I did not lower it.
There are some metal brackets that are crimped onto the hoses at the mid point -- they can be removed with a vice grips with no damage.
The connectors at the end, where they attach to the caliper, are slightly larger diameter, where the banjo bolt (I think thats what its called) goes through. Thats the rectangular block at the end -- it is the SAME outside size. Anyhow, It fits fine and doesn't leak. But figured I should mention it, nonetheless.
Of course, assuming you didn't have front disk brakes before, are going to have to make all new lines anyhow to put in the proportioning valve and the dual cylinder master etc. You did have those already, or are going to, right?
There are some metal brackets that are crimped onto the hoses at the mid point -- they can be removed with a vice grips with no damage.
The connectors at the end, where they attach to the caliper, are slightly larger diameter, where the banjo bolt (I think thats what its called) goes through. Thats the rectangular block at the end -- it is the SAME outside size. Anyhow, It fits fine and doesn't leak. But figured I should mention it, nonetheless.
Of course, assuming you didn't have front disk brakes before, are going to have to make all new lines anyhow to put in the proportioning valve and the dual cylinder master etc. You did have those already, or are going to, right?
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I used hoses for a 77 on my 66 but also took the brackets from the 77. I also carefully bent the steel tubing from the block just before the flex hose which gave me a considerable amount of room.
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cdherman was right on the money with the brake lines. I grabbed a set of Charger ones yesterday and they fit fine. I grabbed a proportioning valve from the wrecking yard, fab'd a bracket to bolt it to the frame at an exisiting boss almost directly below the master cylinder and then bent new steel lines. I chased some leaks but it got late before I could bleed the entire system. Thanks for the help with tracking down the brake hoses.
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Use the Ford lines and bend them where they connect to the caliper at the block just like Dads 66 says.
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William -- I considered that too, and I had the old ones to play with. But even with some bending, the original lines are just too short, unless you move the brackets as well.
Put those bent lines on and then turn the tires right and left a few times and see whether you like what you see.
Put those bent lines on and then turn the tires right and left a few times and see whether you like what you see.
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Makes good common sense when doing the disc brakes to install all new hard lines and rubber lines.
Inline Tube and other companies makes exact replacments. here in the east there is usually no steel lines left on a slick so replacment is mandatory.
I used a set of stainless steel brake lines on the crew cab purchased from NPD. They fit perfectly and will never rust. Pricey at $180 but i felt it was worth the cost to do as the truck is a full nut and bolt frame up custom restoration.
Garbz
Inline Tube and other companies makes exact replacments. here in the east there is usually no steel lines left on a slick so replacment is mandatory.
I used a set of stainless steel brake lines on the crew cab purchased from NPD. They fit perfectly and will never rust. Pricey at $180 but i felt it was worth the cost to do as the truck is a full nut and bolt frame up custom restoration.
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The lines I used were Ford, had a square banjo fitting at the caliper with about 4 inches of steel line then rubber over to the frame. When installed they stick straight up. I just grabbed them and bent them over towards the frame. The truck I have in the garage now has Ford lines, they reach and are sticking straight up? Is it possible that there are longer lines for some applications? My truck and others I have worked on were not lowered. I don't see where that would make a difference but I guess it does? Wish I could be more helpful!
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