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Old Feb 4, 2001 | 04:36 PM
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My '86 has started making sort of a whirling sound that seems to be coming from the bellhousing. Could this be the throwout bearing or the clutch itself? The truck has the I6 with a 4 speed with 4th being overdrive. what trans is this? It has over 130,000 miles so its probably getting about time for a new clutch anyway but if I change that out what else should be changed while I'm doing it? Any ideas?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2001 | 08:09 PM
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the transmission is a tod, . i had similar problem on my 85 . the throwout rides on a flange that is made of aluminum or magnesium, and it wears unevenly, probably causing the sound you are hearing. ford has an "upgrade' on this part if you replace it. and, surprise, it is steel!!.
so, if your clutch is bad, and you have to go in, check this part out. of course the noise could just be the worn clutch, and not this peice.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 07:16 AM
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When I did my own clutch on an '84 at 95,000 miles I just did clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing; when I had a mechanic do it to the same truck at 165,000 he did all that and turned the flywheel and replaced the pilot bearing. Just had a clutch on my '95 at 70,000 miles and he did not replace pilot bearing. For your truck at 130,000 if the pilot bearing never has been replaced it probably would be a good idea, though I don't know how easy/hard it is to do.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 10:35 AM
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Hi, on this truck the pilot bearing is actually a bronze bushing which should outlast you!!! but if it is bad the easiest way to replace it is fill the hole and cavity behind it in the back of the crank shaft then find a small piece of round stock that fits snugly in the pilot bushing and gently tap with a hammer this will act as a hydraulic press from the inside should pop right out. John
 
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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 12:22 PM
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 05-Feb-01 AT 01:25 PM (EST)[/font][p]Hey Fatforty:

I've heard of this before, in fact, I think I tried it when I did the pilot bearing in my '81 F100 300 six. I believe I tried it with grease--your message doesn't say what to use. Perhaps the rod I used didn't fit the I.D. of the bearing tight enough. So did you use grease? What do you think about using modeling clay?

I ended up using a pilot bearing puller (for a Mercedes-Benz)which had two fingers and you put it inside the bearing, then expanded the circumference of the puller so the fingers picked up the inner edge of the bearing, then you wound it out. Had to make a collar to adapt it to the Ford, but it worked. That bearing was REALLY in there hard, I can tell you.

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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 12:59 PM
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Interesting, I remember my mechanic telling me that for the '84 with 165,000 miles on it that the pilot bearing was a real bear to get out and ended up coming out in 5 pieces. The new clutch he installed works great. Now when he did my '95 with 70,000 miles on it he did not replace the bearing and the bearing is a roller bearing which he repacked with grease,but said it was in very good shape.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 03:09 PM
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Hi, in the earlier style trucks I have always found a bronze bushing. You just use grease and the round stock has to be snug but not tight when you compress the grease from the center it acts as a hydraulic jack from the back side just go easy so it doesn't blow the grease out in your face. John
 
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Old Feb 5, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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What kind of sound did you say it was? If it's a high pitched squealing sound that goes away when you put your clutch in a bit, it could just be loose linkage, provided you have a mechanical clutch. If your clutch pedal has been feeling loose, try tightening up your adjusting arm...
 
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Dermeister: My clutch is doing EXACTLY that, a high pitch sound that rises and falls very fast and goes away mostly when the clutch is put in, it doesn't always happen so I'm hesitant on taking it to the dealer (transmission and clutch was replaced last month) But my truck being a `95 and a hydrolic clutch, could it still be a mal-adjusted linkage?

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Old Feb 6, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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Thanks for the advice folks. My truck does have the hydralic clutch so I don't think it can be adjusted. The best I can discribe the sound is that it is a high pitch whirling sound. Sometimes it goes away when the clutch is pushed, other times it will quiet down a bit. Its not loud but it annoys me because I know it shouldn't be doing it. Another thing that it does is sometimes when I back up after driving forward the trans will grind like a gear is still spinning unless I ease out the clutch enough to drop the rpm's then it goes right in gear with no trouble.
 
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