Rad Support mount
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Fan clearance
I found out tonight that my fan will need to be modified or replaced on my 302; I had to offset my motor to passenger side by 1 1/2" for header clearnace, so as the rad is centerd, My fan will not clear right side of stock fan shroud. I may go with electric fan. Was at rad shop today; rad is being recored , tranny cooler and tanks added. Picture of stock 48 rad mocked with 302 in my gallery.
Tom
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Originally Posted by tip49
I found out tonight that my fan will need to be modified or replaced on my 302; I had to offset my motor to passenger side by 1 1/2" for header clearnace, so as the rad is centerd, My fan will not clear right side of stock fan shroud. I may go with electric fan. Was at rad shop today; rad is being recored , tranny cooler and tanks added. Picture of stock 48 rad mocked with 302 in my gallery.
Tom
Tom
My engine is also offset (2 inches) to the right but as I am not using the original radiator, the stock shroud is not an issue. I am going to attempt running without a shroud since I am using a large diameter clutch fan which covers the entire radiator. I suppose I can fabricate a shrould later if it becomes necessary.
Bobby,
I'll try to get a picture of the air deflector as I modified it and put it in my gallery, but it may be awhile. I don't have a digital camera and have only used up about half of the roll of 24. I'll let you know when I get around to developing them. Unfortunately, I did not take a before picture.
Vern
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Tom,
I had to offset my engine a little also, but only about an inch. I had all the exhaust and everything on that big Caddy engine when I sat it in place and fabbed my mounts. Good fit against the steering and everything. Then I decided to go with the Toyota power box, dang, the box would have been a bit too close to the exhaust. So I moved the box up to in front of the crossmemeber instead. Then I found a great deal on some chrome headers for the Caddy engine, but dang, they interfere with my steering shaft assy so I've decided to stick with the original exhaust manifolds. It's either that or raise the engine 2"......nope. I'm done fabricating--I want to drive!
Vern--thanks, no big rush on the pics. I understand the way things are. If I didn't have a digital cam for work I wouln't have one either.
I had to offset my engine a little also, but only about an inch. I had all the exhaust and everything on that big Caddy engine when I sat it in place and fabbed my mounts. Good fit against the steering and everything. Then I decided to go with the Toyota power box, dang, the box would have been a bit too close to the exhaust. So I moved the box up to in front of the crossmemeber instead. Then I found a great deal on some chrome headers for the Caddy engine, but dang, they interfere with my steering shaft assy so I've decided to stick with the original exhaust manifolds. It's either that or raise the engine 2"......nope. I'm done fabricating--I want to drive!
Vern--thanks, no big rush on the pics. I understand the way things are. If I didn't have a digital cam for work I wouln't have one either.
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Rad mount
Great North - thanks for the input, once my read is finished , I will set up fan rand etc. I wnat to use the shroug as it lends that "vintage" look I'm after.
Bobby;
Thanks for the feedback, I noticed I will have to shave 1/4" from my driver side motor mount bracket, to clear steering knuckle. My headers will be close but I hope steering column clears by 1/2" or better.
Tom
Bobby;
Thanks for the feedback, I noticed I will have to shave 1/4" from my driver side motor mount bracket, to clear steering knuckle. My headers will be close but I hope steering column clears by 1/2" or better.
Tom
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Just found this post today and I thought I would put up an alternative radiator solution for people that can't make the Mopar one fit
I have just done this install in the last couple of days, works REAL neatly
I have left my rad support panel in the V8 location
I used a 1976 F100 5 core radiator, mounted infront of the radiator support
The side strap of the radiators has two flanges down each side (kind of a U shape). I trimmed the longer one down to the same length as the shorter one, removed about 1/2", simple straight cut with a angle grinder
I folded up two channels 4" wide 3/4" deep and the height of the innerguards which bolt too the 6 cylinder holes in the innerfenders.
The radiator sits into these channels, and is held in position by four small bolts.
Standard F100 radiator hoses line up perfectly with my 351C, should be the same for windsor hoses.
All VERY neat and ALL FORD
I will post photos later
Hope this helps someone
Mark
I have just done this install in the last couple of days, works REAL neatly
I have left my rad support panel in the V8 location
I used a 1976 F100 5 core radiator, mounted infront of the radiator support
The side strap of the radiators has two flanges down each side (kind of a U shape). I trimmed the longer one down to the same length as the shorter one, removed about 1/2", simple straight cut with a angle grinder
I folded up two channels 4" wide 3/4" deep and the height of the innerguards which bolt too the 6 cylinder holes in the innerfenders.
The radiator sits into these channels, and is held in position by four small bolts.
Standard F100 radiator hoses line up perfectly with my 351C, should be the same for windsor hoses.
All VERY neat and ALL FORD
I will post photos later
Hope this helps someone
Mark
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F100 rad
Mark;
I too looked at a 1979 F100 rad; would have gone with it at a third of the cost but I liked the "vintage" look I'll get with the stock rad re-cored.
Awesome progress on the truck! I have been at mine since Oct 04, hope to have cab repaired and ready to mount on frame 1-2 months. Once gas tank is mounted, have steering and plumbing left on frame.
Tom
I too looked at a 1979 F100 rad; would have gone with it at a third of the cost but I liked the "vintage" look I'll get with the stock rad re-cored.
Awesome progress on the truck! I have been at mine since Oct 04, hope to have cab repaired and ready to mount on frame 1-2 months. Once gas tank is mounted, have steering and plumbing left on frame.
Tom
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Originally Posted by tip49
Mark;
Awesome progress on the truck! I have been at mine since Oct 04, hope to have cab repaired and ready to mount on frame 1-2 months. Once gas tank is mounted, have steering and plumbing left on frame.
Tom
Awesome progress on the truck! I have been at mine since Oct 04, hope to have cab repaired and ready to mount on frame 1-2 months. Once gas tank is mounted, have steering and plumbing left on frame.
Tom
Engine, box and diff were painted and went in last weekend.
Bright red motor, with polished repro Cal Custom rockers and a big tunnel ram.
Smoothed inner guards and firewall (NO holes, everything hidden) which will be painted white and pinstripped........looks way cool already
I need to get someone to finish the beating on the back panel of the cab and paint it (Patina, so any old green with a flattening agent). Hopefully I can get my beater over tommorrow
I need to make the tray floor, then mount the propane tank, throttle cable, shifter, wirring etc etc. And I still need a grill
I''ll be running just in time for winter and the end of rod run season
Mark
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Mark,
From your description of the 76 F-100 radiator with the U-shaped flanges, it sounds a lot like the Mopar radiator I am using. My hope is to install my radiator with as few alterations as possible so that if I were ever to need a new radiator on the road, I could just install one straight out of the box without any mods. I don't know if I can do that or not, but will try. I believe I can fabricate some brackets that will line up the original Ford mounting holes in the core support to the mounting holes on the Mopar radiator. This type of installation may not look as pretty as one where the brackets are trimmed, but I am going for functionality over looks.
Vern
From your description of the 76 F-100 radiator with the U-shaped flanges, it sounds a lot like the Mopar radiator I am using. My hope is to install my radiator with as few alterations as possible so that if I were ever to need a new radiator on the road, I could just install one straight out of the box without any mods. I don't know if I can do that or not, but will try. I believe I can fabricate some brackets that will line up the original Ford mounting holes in the core support to the mounting holes on the Mopar radiator. This type of installation may not look as pretty as one where the brackets are trimmed, but I am going for functionality over looks.
Vern
Last edited by GreatNorthWoods; Apr 21, 2005 at 07:00 AM.
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I looked at the F-100 radiator also but I think the hose outlets weren't where I needed them to be since I'm not staying all Ford. I fabbed my new rad support from 3/16 x 3 flat bar. I took it over to my buddies shop and broke it into a large "U" shape to match the original except the bottom corners were 90 degree bends and not the large radius. Then I puched some slotted holes to match the original fender mounting holes and added a little bracing.
I'm hoping to be on the road in a couple of months also. I cut and fitted some frame boxing plates last night. Hopefully in a few weeks I'll have the frame welded up and all the holes in the firewall repaired and be ready to drop the engine back in....hopefully
Bobby
I'm hoping to be on the road in a couple of months also. I cut and fitted some frame boxing plates last night. Hopefully in a few weeks I'll have the frame welded up and all the holes in the firewall repaired and be ready to drop the engine back in....hopefully
Bobby
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RAD re-cored
Picked up rad today from shop; tanks modified with tranny cooler; inlets for 302 setup; new 4 row core. Brackets salvaged to fit rad support .Will use stock shroud . Will not have to modifiy fender aprons to account for fit to IFS
Pics in my gallery under motor install
Tom
Pics in my gallery under motor install
Tom
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