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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Need more help in identifying another engine.

A fellow board member turned me onto this engine. It came out of a '52 F1. The seller claims that it's a 215. He also stated that the engine belonged to a school district since being purchased new and was never replaced, but rebuilt to 0.010. The engine has a tag to support the rebuild. However, from other pictures that I've seen of '52 215s, the valve cover looks different; note the position of the oil breather.

Here's a 215 from a running '52:


Here's what's for sale:




Is the above engine a 215 or am I just being silly and over examining it?


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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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My parts books (48-55) has a drawing of a 215 just like that with the same exact valve cover. It shows the oil cap farther back like that. It say "1953- 6 cyl OHV 215 CID Models J and JH" which are P series vans on F-350 or F-500 chassis. It's a 215. The conventional trucks had the cap in front and the P series had it farther back for access thru the engine cover.

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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My parts books (48-55) has a drawing of a 215 just like that with the same exact valve cover. It shows the oil cap farther back like that. It say "1953- 6 cyl OHV 215 CID Models J and JH" which are P series vans on F-350 or F-500 chassis. It's a 215. The conventional trucks had the cap in front and the P series had it farther back for access thru the engine cover.

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Let's see if I got this correct. The engine is from a '53 P series (parcel van)? Heavier duty, maybe?

Which is the correct valve cover for a conventional truck, the one in the first picture or the one in the latter pictures?

Either way, this engine would be as correct as I can get at this time for my '52 Panel, right?

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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THe first pic has the correct valve cover for your panel truck. Only the parcel delivery series had the other cover, nothing else. P series had a different carb with the remote air cleaner. It's as close as you're gonna get right now!

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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THe first pic has the correct valve cover for your panel truck. Only the parcel delivery series had the other cover, nothing else. P series had a different carb with the remote air cleaner. It's as close as you're gonna get right now!

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Thanks. I guess I have to make arrangement to travel to SoCal to get the engine. I may know of where I can get the proper valve cover. The seller has the carb/air cleaner to go with the engine.

I have the remote air cleaner and different carb from the '52 P5 from which I pulled another inline 6 from.

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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I have this engine from a '52 F-6 conventional truck. It could have replaced the original engine but this is the engine that was in the truck when I bought. In fact it's still sitting in the front frame rails. It has the oil cap toward the back.




 
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Here's a good one for you. In 52-54 books, there was 2 covers listed, depending on the depth of the recess in the covers for the stud grommet. In 55, they replaced the 2 into one with a 55 car part number. In later years, they replaced it again with a 59 car number for both the 215 and 223. These covers were probably swapped every which way when they were replaced or rebuilt.

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Thanks everyone, Barry and Bob especially.

Unlike U2's song, I have found what I was looking for.

Bob, we could still work something out on a trade for that '52 engine. Remember, I still have a good F2-F6 clip. You know which one.

Still waiting for the block casting number from the seller to confirm.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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The seller provided me with the following information about the engine:

Drivers side manifold casting number is EAA 9430A

Drivers side block number casting towards rear of engine EAA -6015


Is it still a '52? I think so, but would like reassurance because I have to drive south to L.A. and back home in one day. That's 10-12 hrs in the truck. I don't want to do it if it's the wrong engine.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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The parts books don't show casting numbers, but the exact part number for the 215 exhaust manifold is EAA 9426-A, listed for 52-53.

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