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I have a 96 F-350 with the PSD. When I checked the oil today I noticed that it had little white specs in it. You can only see them if you look very closley in bright light. Is this something to be worried about?
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Kinda sounds like a lil bit of water in the oil, from condensation. like when a motor just runs around all day and doesnt get hot enough to boil the water out of the oil. how long has the oil been in the truck, and how hot was it when you checked it. I.E. how long where you driving before you checked it. A lil thing I always like to do is drive for a good hour before I check it, so I know it is hot, fully despersed through the motor, and all the water is gone.
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The oil has been in for almost a year. I dont put very many miles on it, but I usually run it too operating temp before shutting it down. It has Mystick Oil with a Baldwin Oil filter. Do you think the condensation buildup will cause any damage?
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In a gas motor the water will eventually turn into a corrisive acid and eat bearings, cylinder walls, anything it can get on. but a diesel will not make the same slug in the oil as a gasser. So i am not totaly sure that it will turn into an acid. but I would be a lil concerned. before I dumped it all out I would do like I said before and run it hard, get it hot, and see if it goes away. you can also have it tested to see if you are getting an excess amount of water in your oil possible from a gasket gone bad, but thats unlikely. sound like a condesation problem.
I send mine to blackstone labratories to have it tested. cost $18.00. I used to have the link but lost it. hopefully someone else will have it and post it.
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I send mine to blackstone labratories to have it tested. cost $18.00. I used to have the link but lost it. hopefully someone else will have it and post it.
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Even in a oil burner the oil should be changed at least every six months regardless of milage.
This is probably a question that could be answered by the oil experts in the Oil and Lubrication Forum.
My guess is that it's something in the additive pack of the oil that is breaking down. Silicon comes to mind.
Personally I wouldn't run that garbage for one second longer, just drain it.
Oil is cheap, so why try so save it and possibly ruining the motor with it in it, just to see if you can burn it out as previously mentioned?
This is probably a question that could be answered by the oil experts in the Oil and Lubrication Forum.
My guess is that it's something in the additive pack of the oil that is breaking down. Silicon comes to mind.
Personally I wouldn't run that garbage for one second longer, just drain it.
Oil is cheap, so why try so save it and possibly ruining the motor with it in it, just to see if you can burn it out as previously mentioned?
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Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
Even in a oil burner the oil should be changed at least every six months regardless of milage.
Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
Oil is cheap, so why try so save it and possibly ruining the motor with it in it, just to see if you can burn it out as previously mentioned?
unless you have expensive oil like me. I will change me previous statement and say dump it. but I will still run mine until the test's say dump it out.
When in doubt, get it the H*ll out.
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yeah definately change the oil least every 6 months the condensation can destroy a diesel just as much as a gas motor. the acid forms from che condensation mixing with burnt oil fumes, not as much as a concern due to the fact that lower operating temps done create as much. but still...
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How do you account for the fact that International recommends oil change every 10,000 for the T444E engine (thats a PSD)
http://www.navistar.com/site_layout/...444edetail.asp
look near the bottom of the page in the area titled "Easy to Service, Easy to Own"
http://www.navistar.com/site_layout/...444edetail.asp
look near the bottom of the page in the area titled "Easy to Service, Easy to Own"
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Originally Posted by Phydeaux88
How do you account for the fact that International recommends oil change every 10,000 for the T444E engine (thats a PSD)
http://www.navistar.com/site_layout/engine/t444edetail.asp
look near the bottom of the page in the area titled "Easy to Service, Easy to Own"
http://www.navistar.com/site_layout/engine/t444edetail.asp
look near the bottom of the page in the area titled "Easy to Service, Easy to Own"
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Originally Posted by Phydeaux88
The oil pan on an International is 4 quarts larger. I doubt that missing 4 quarts will shorten the useful life of oil by 70%. Especially if you use a good quality synthetic.
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Frobozz hit the nail on the head.
The problem is that oil does not have a long shelf life in bottles to begin with, and even less when inside a motor. This is especially true in a motor that sees constant short trips where the oil never gets hot enough to burn off the contaminates, and therefore is forced to hydorolize the contaminates.
The other problem is that the oil specs that mfgs give; are assuming that you drive a certain amount of miles within a given time frame.
There is a reason why Mfg'ers give a XXXX miles or X months, which ever comes first, oil change schedule.
If you are running your truck at long drive intervals at operation temps, then extended drains may be for you as the oil doesn't have to work as hard.
The problem is that oil does not have a long shelf life in bottles to begin with, and even less when inside a motor. This is especially true in a motor that sees constant short trips where the oil never gets hot enough to burn off the contaminates, and therefore is forced to hydorolize the contaminates.
The other problem is that the oil specs that mfgs give; are assuming that you drive a certain amount of miles within a given time frame.
There is a reason why Mfg'ers give a XXXX miles or X months, which ever comes first, oil change schedule.
If you are running your truck at long drive intervals at operation temps, then extended drains may be for you as the oil doesn't have to work as hard.
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