Any one know where I can get some?
I need to make a bell housing to put a C4 on a non ford engine.

 

Any one know where I can get blueprints for the bell housing pattern?
I want to make a new bellhousing to fit a C4 to a buick 215 V8.

 

Ford considers that confidential information and does not disclose it. Check with http://www.advanceadapters.com/ to see if they have that application.

 

I'm a machinist, and making a bell housing would be harder than measuring one. I would set up each bell housing in a coordinate measuring machine, if I had one, or a vertical milling machine, and locate each bolt hole w/ an indicator, writing the dimensions down on a tracing of said bell housing. You would need a milling machine to make one accurately, anyhow. I'd see if someone made one before I went through all that.

 

Didn't some Rovers, not land rovers, but 2wd taxis and cars and BMC's use ford transmissions? The buick 215 V8 has the same bellhousing pattern (and is almost the same engine) as the aluminum Rover 215 V8.

 

I no longer have access to a machine shop, and the only lead I have is some doctor who had one made for his race car and never gets back to me on sending me the info he once told me would be no problem to send to me.

As far a Rover, I have a posting up on a related site and am awaiting a reply, but all I read about is stick shift bell housings available for almost every manual trans made to fit it.
There is an adapter company that makes a C4 bellhousing that hooks up to the small block chevy calle the "Chevord"

Perhaps I could have a shaft made that I could bolt into the main bearings that has the trans side bell housing flange bolted to the end spaced out the 7 inches it takes, bolt a 1/4" plate on the back of the engine and weld some shaped plate in the basic shape of the remaining housing.
It would not be pretty, but would locate it centered.

 

How about measurements of the rear of the small block engine with the crankshaft center?

 

If I want a small auto trans with at least 3 gears that would be easy for me to rebuild, (I have found the AOD to be a bit of a pain to rebuild) it either has to be a C6 or a C4, and the C4 has a removable bellhousing, can handle the power output of the 215, and takes less HP away from the engine to run than the C6.
If it's going to be a simple plate adapter, I could use either one, but a bellhousing would be better.

Where I have gotten so far.

1: I have found the Chevord (a nifty replacement bellhousing with the C4 trans bolt pattern on one side and the Chevy engine bolt pattern on the other side) to fit the C4 to a Chevy (so the Chevy now has a decent, small 3 speed trans option!).
So far the best looking adapter I have seen as of yet because it is not a plate style adapter, and it makes the trans look stock.

2: I found a few that offer "plate style" adapters to fit the Buick 215 to the turbo 350, 400, and the 2 speed Powerglide, but except for the Powerglide, I'd rather not have to rebuild a Chevy trans.



I have just a few questions.

1: Any one know if there is a bellhousing to fit the two together?
2: What were there other auto transmissions made to fit the Buick 215 and rover engine (I assume it's not likely that they would be reasonably easy and cheap to get in the USA)?


Anyone able to help me with some info?

 

Maybe these guys can help

http://www.transmissionadapters.com/AboutUs.htm

 

Thank you for the lead.

They dont say if they adapt to the 215 online, but there might be another buick that uses the same pattern.
I sent them an e mail so we shall see.

 

archangel.
Have you tried pick'n the brains of the guys down in the Clutch,Transmission, Differential, Axle and Transfer Case forum here at FTE?

Just a thought.

 

I have an aluminum Buick 215 V8 and need a decent 3 speed trans fitted to it, and being a ford fan, I want it to be a C4.

If I want a small auto trans with at least 3 gears that would be easy for me to rebuild, (I have found the AOD to be a bit of a pain to rebuild) it either has to be a C6 or a C4, and the C4 has a removable bellhousing, can handle the power output of the 215, and takes less HP away from the engine to run than the C6.
If it's going to be a simple plate adapter, I could use either one, but a bellhousing would be better.

Where I have gotten so far.

1: I have found the Chevord (a nifty replacement bellhousing with the C4 trans bolt pattern on one side and the Chevy engine bolt pattern on the other side) to fit the C4 to a Chevy (so the Chevy now has a decent, small 3 speed trans option!).
So far the best looking adapter I have seen as of yet because it is not a plate style adapter, and it makes the trans look stock.

2: I found a few that offer "plate style" adapters to fit the Buick 215 to the turbo 350, 400, and the 2 speed Powerglide, but except for the Powerglide, I'd rather not have to rebuild a Chevy trans.



I have just a few questions.

1: Any one know if there is a bellhousing to fit the two together?
2: What were there other auto transmissions made to fit the Buick 215 and rover engine (I assume it's not likely that they would be reasonably easy and cheap to get in the USA)?


If not, does anyone have, or know where I can get, a pattern for the bellhousing to block mating surface for either the 215 or the small block ford with the center of the crank shafts located?

 

Subj: Re: Transmission adapting.
Date: 2/15/05 7:30:35 AM Central Standard Time
From: BBendtsen
To: me




I don't make anything like that.

 

Considering that a BOP pattern TH350 or one of the 700R4 trannies is likely a direct bolt up to a Buick 215 or if not that adapters should be readily available, is the work and hassle to build your own bell housing worth it??

Plus once the bell is done, don't forget you still have to mate the C4 torque convertor to the Buick flex plate, more adapting.

The C4 is a great trans, but is it worth that much work, compared to in this case plug and play with the right GM trans.

I'm already putting on my fireproof suit.

Piper106

 

CLICK, CLICK, CLICK,-------DANG!
That's the last time I buy a second hand flame thrower!

I want a strong small trans, so that's either the Powerglide or the C4, and if I want a three speed, and no plate spacer offsetting the trans, it's got to be the C4.

The chevy or modern pattern Buick is not a direct bolt on, and there are a few plate adapters available, but they place the trans back a little causing the need for a different flywheel as the torque converter cant reach it.
With the proper spacing, all I need to do is have the proper four hole pattern drilled in the stock flex plate as it's already balanced properly.

I think I'll do the shaft the size of the crank mains, bolted in the main bearings with a 1/4" plate having the trans face pattern on the end spaced out the needed distance, and a 1/4" plate bolted to the engine and weld up some strips for the remainder of the housing.

That cast Chevord looks real slick though.