360 FE vs. 351 windsor
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360 FE vs. 351 windsor
In a scout 800 am I better off with a 360 or a 351?
considering both engines have a 9.5:1 compression, headers, 210 D , .500" valve lift, 600 cfm 4 barrel vacume secondaries, electronic ignition.
considering both engines have a 9.5:1 compression, headers, 210 D , .500" valve lift, 600 cfm 4 barrel vacume secondaries, electronic ignition.
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If you have to do a conversion to get either of those motors in there, then I'd probably go with the 351W. It should be cheaper to build and provide plenty of power for the Scout. Unless you're looking for a WOW factor of an FE motor, then look at one of the bigger FEs (390, 427, 428 etc)
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The stock 360 would make more power with identical performance cams and headers as the stock windsor heads flow quite a bit less but as far as getting the engine into the scout I would choose the windsor. It will make good power and be lighter.
The 351W would be my choice.
The 351W would be my choice.
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how much is too much for a Scout at 3500 lbs do you guys think?
I think a 390 would be fun but is it too much for the street?
I will be using a T-19 granny with 33" tires and 3.55-3.73 gears.
I want ot give it very little gas and have it move quick because I do not want to have to open the secondaries during normal driving, I do not like 4 bangers because you have to scream them to get them out of your own way. A V8 you can have the deep sound at low revs but not annoy the neighbors by reving 5000 to go fast.
I want some thing that is bullet proof and will be strong for along time.
I think a 390 would be fun but is it too much for the street?
I will be using a T-19 granny with 33" tires and 3.55-3.73 gears.
I want ot give it very little gas and have it move quick because I do not want to have to open the secondaries during normal driving, I do not like 4 bangers because you have to scream them to get them out of your own way. A V8 you can have the deep sound at low revs but not annoy the neighbors by reving 5000 to go fast.
I want some thing that is bullet proof and will be strong for along time.
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I think either, if built right, could serve you well. A mild 390 build will not be too much for the street. Gobs of low end torque available with the right cam. You might even look at building a 410 (360 / 390 block with 428 crank).
A 390 will weigh more, but with aluminum heads and intake it shouldn't be that bad at all. Also the FE will produce more torque, simply from the longer stroke and more cubic inches.
Plus, you'll get plenty of comments about having an FE in there!
In the end though, the choice is yours. I dont think you could go wrong either way.
A 390 will weigh more, but with aluminum heads and intake it shouldn't be that bad at all. Also the FE will produce more torque, simply from the longer stroke and more cubic inches.
Plus, you'll get plenty of comments about having an FE in there!
In the end though, the choice is yours. I dont think you could go wrong either way.
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Id put in a nicely built but mild 390FE that would outpower the 351 easily and the FE's are among Fords most relaible and durable engines. A stock 360 has 7:2:1 comperssion according to my chiltions manual so they are sorta weak in stock form.
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And you guys say that it is not worth it to build up a 360, I think one would wake up nicely.
I like FEs more than others because most Bronco guys go 289, 302, 351, I want to do something different, not a FERAri vs. Muscle car bunch , but suprise people what an older engine can do because alot of people think new is better. I think that technology is BS
when I'm done building up this scout it will basically be a Bronco because of all ford Drivetrain and ENgine and mild change of body design, alot of people think new is better. I think that technology is BS simpley because it is complicated and is usually more fragile than old tech, I can not even figure uot how to adjust the jets on our 1990 Bronco 2, I just turn the idle up if it is too weak of a take off form 700 rpm. I think that the FE is the most simple v8 I can go and should go with out going flat head.
that is why
I like FEs more than others because most Bronco guys go 289, 302, 351, I want to do something different, not a FERAri vs. Muscle car bunch , but suprise people what an older engine can do because alot of people think new is better. I think that technology is BS
when I'm done building up this scout it will basically be a Bronco because of all ford Drivetrain and ENgine and mild change of body design, alot of people think new is better. I think that technology is BS simpley because it is complicated and is usually more fragile than old tech, I can not even figure uot how to adjust the jets on our 1990 Bronco 2, I just turn the idle up if it is too weak of a take off form 700 rpm. I think that the FE is the most simple v8 I can go and should go with out going flat head.
that is why
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Heh, you have no idea what a 390 is capable of, do you? 
How's this:
1. 390 block, crank, .030" over (most usual overbore)
2. Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and intake
3. TRW / Speed Pro L2291F30 pistons, Fel-Pro .041" thick head gasket - 9.54:1 compression
4. Crane 343901 cam
5. Adjustable rocker setup - allows accurate lifter preload
6. Holley 600cfm carb
7. Headers - dual exhaust
The above build results in 368hp @ 5000rpm, 443ft-lbs @ 3500rpm, and 431ft-lbs @ 2000rpm. The torque curve is nice and flat.
How's this:
1. 390 block, crank, .030" over (most usual overbore)
2. Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and intake
3. TRW / Speed Pro L2291F30 pistons, Fel-Pro .041" thick head gasket - 9.54:1 compression
4. Crane 343901 cam
5. Adjustable rocker setup - allows accurate lifter preload
6. Holley 600cfm carb
7. Headers - dual exhaust
The above build results in 368hp @ 5000rpm, 443ft-lbs @ 3500rpm, and 431ft-lbs @ 2000rpm. The torque curve is nice and flat.
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sounds like you've already made your mind up. However I'd go with the 351. It weighs less, is just as durable, revs better, has more of an aftermarket following, etc,etc... Now I love FE's but unless you go 390 or bigger, the 351 is the better choice. Just my .02
