Hunters Killed
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From: Roland, Ar
If you want to see what a Siaga rifle looks like go to www.survival.com.mx/gunrack2.html looks like its built on the AK type frame.
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Originally Posted by F150'89
If you want to see what a Siaga rifle looks like go to www.survival.com.mx/gunrack2.html looks like its built on the AK type frame.
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I only skimmed this thread, so bare with me if I repeat something.
The group the shooter is from (Hmong?) had been in trouble here in ND last summer with well over the limit of fish caught (well in the hundreds, I think).
Something is wrong with the guy if he shot those men like that. What surprises me is that non of the hunters tried to pick him out of the tree in self-defense.
People like that are what make me leary about going out off the beaten path. I like to get out to the places that are not commonly travelled and such to do photography. If I see anyone or a vehicle I'll split just because I don't feel safe.
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Justin
The group the shooter is from (Hmong?) had been in trouble here in ND last summer with well over the limit of fish caught (well in the hundreds, I think).
Something is wrong with the guy if he shot those men like that. What surprises me is that non of the hunters tried to pick him out of the tree in self-defense.
People like that are what make me leary about going out off the beaten path. I like to get out to the places that are not commonly travelled and such to do photography. If I see anyone or a vehicle I'll split just because I don't feel safe.
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Justin
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From: Covington usa
Sick
Originally Posted by mkoser
I'm going go out on a limb here.
An eye for an eye. That should do just fine.
MK
An eye for an eye. That should do just fine.
MK
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Originally Posted by 88grandmarquis
Something is wrong with the guy if he shot those men like that. What surprises me is that non of the hunters tried to pick him out of the tree in self-defense.
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Justin
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Justin
Here's my POV. I'm going to wait and see what comes out in the investigation, instead of putting blind trust in the media accounts. Maybe he's as bad as everybody says, or maybe there's some truth to his claim. Either way, 6 people are dead and they're going to stay that way no matter how this mess went down. I do find it remarkable that there'd only be one gun amongst the 8 victims.
Full disclosure: I'm a U.S. military veteran of Asian descent that has experienced being treated like a second class citizen in my own country, so I can kind of relate to what the killer has claimed, but I've never felt like killing anybody over it. Fighting maybe, but not killing.
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confession!!
this was posted earlier by dhermesc, but has been overlooked , this is a confession of the killer.
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...304edits01.pdf
i could somewhat understand him shooting the one person that had a rifle, maybe if he was in fear of his life but not the others that he killed , it was cold-blooded murder and if you take the time to read his confession you'll hear from his own words,
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...304edits01.pdf
i could somewhat understand him shooting the one person that had a rifle, maybe if he was in fear of his life but not the others that he killed , it was cold-blooded murder and if you take the time to read his confession you'll hear from his own words,
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I just have one comment. I have hunted all of my life (that covers 62 years) in many different states and under widely varied conditions. NEVER saw any need for a 20 round clip. ALWAYS carried a bolt action rifle and can count on one hand the number of times I fired a second shot from that rifle. My point is a semiautomatic weapon with a 20 round magazine is totally inappropriate for deer hunting for several reasons:
1. After the first shot any deer in the area, wounded or not, are running for cover and almost impossible to hit.
2. After the second or third shot the barrel has heated up enough to seriously degrade the accuracy of the weapon.
Pumping rounds at random into the woods on the chance you will hit a fleeing deer is really a bad idea. If you wound an animal you track it and finish the job.
1. After the first shot any deer in the area, wounded or not, are running for cover and almost impossible to hit.
2. After the second or third shot the barrel has heated up enough to seriously degrade the accuracy of the weapon.
Pumping rounds at random into the woods on the chance you will hit a fleeing deer is really a bad idea. If you wound an animal you track it and finish the job.
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OKMIC1 I'm glad to see another express some common sense here and not being the judge and jury and hang man.
Being married I understand how you feel OKMIC1, my wife was born in Korea. She was raised here and speaks better English than I do. I see the stupidity in people all the time when they try to speak to her in broken English like she’s fresh off the boat!
People would not believe just how stupid they act… when ever they ask her “what are you” she always say’s Irish (her father)..
Being married I understand how you feel OKMIC1, my wife was born in Korea. She was raised here and speaks better English than I do. I see the stupidity in people all the time when they try to speak to her in broken English like she’s fresh off the boat!
People would not believe just how stupid they act… when ever they ask her “what are you” she always say’s Irish (her father)..
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f=2504by497, your post didn't work or at least I couldn't get it to open. By the way, the Green River Killer confessed to 50+ muders last year and so did Yates...neither one will ever see the noose...I think making them live with that guilt is bad enough...removing them by a simple death sentence isn't going to do much..
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lets see if it works now
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...304edits01.pdf
it opens in adobe
hmm the link is no longer anygood, i did copy it i'll try post a copy
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...304edits01.pdf
it opens in adobe
hmm the link is no longer anygood, i did copy it i'll try post a copy
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From: peggs,ok
see with all these anti gun ppl, were going to have a problem, cuz if they try to ban guns all were going to run into is, better knives blow guns brass knuckles grenades, what im trying to say is u dont need a gun to kill a person, you can use ur hands, chipmunk, a snake, any that will not break in half u can kill someone with
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From: Carthage, IL
Originally Posted by LonnieD
I think making them live with that guilt is bad enough...removing them by a simple death sentence isn't going to do much..
screw that gas them fry them or whatever and quit sending me thier cable bill
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Originally Posted by f=2504by497
i could somewhat understand him shooting the one person that had a rifle, maybe if he was in fear of his life but not the others that he killed , it was cold-blooded murder and if you take the time to read his confession you'll hear from his own words,
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noted this and mentioned it in an earlier post of mine. I'll asume your URL leads to the same statement from vang that mine did. Based on what **** said in his statement, and if it's the truth (a big IF right now), then that first person he dropped was a justified shooting. You can't go shooting rounds 30-40 feet into the ground behind someone that is leaving. That's called assault, and from the sequence of events implied by ***** statement, the assault was felony in nature. But ***** shooting needed to stop right there. Nobody else (so far as noted/reported) was a threat to his life. After that, it looked like he proceeded to commit murder/attempted murder.
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