Basically what happened is the guy was tresspassing on private property, in someones private stand. A couple of the hunters asked him to leave and eventually had to tell him to leave. Thats when he open fire on them with an sks. Of course he was wearing no orange at all, just camo which would be the first big no no. Some of them asians are really shady to be around when hunting. From what is sounds like there have been quite a few mishaps with them. Another thing is they will kill and eat anything and in some cases have very little regard for any poaching laws whatsoever. Back in October me, my brother, my dad, and a friend had an incident with 3 of them. We went up to a gravel pit where we would always go to do heavy shooting. Its a pretty secluded area I believe on state land. Well we pulled up to notice a truck parked in the area. So my first thought is we have to know where these people are before we start shooting. Well, we yelled out a little with no response. My brother fired off a couple of rounds off into a safe direction and finally the 3 came walking out of the woods. I think 2 had rifles and maybe one shotgun, but I am not really sure. All of them were dressed in camo, one of them had an orange hat, that was it. They really had no intention of talking to us after my brother, who was holding his mini-14 with a hi cap mag and synthetic folding stock asked them how it was going. They just hung their heads down and walked by. I didn't realize it at the time but a couple hours later I think we came to the conclusion that they were more than likely poaching. We couldn't call it in cause or cell phones didn't work up there, plus we just didn't think about it right away.

 

Have a cabin up in that part of the world.

Had to run off some bear hunters that were obviously trespassing (well posted area). Dogs where down the private drive almost a half mile.

Anywho, will need to re-think the plan of action next time I need to run someone off the property. Will probably keep the loaded shotgun near by for the weekend in case someone decides to come back and retaliate. Good thing I have a dog that has much better hearing than myself (she's what tipped me off to something out in the woods in the first place).

Shame that some people cannot follow any rules, and have no morals or conscience.

 

This morning's paper (KC Star) described the sks as a "high-powered assault rifle". It might be high-powered compared to some of the smaller handgun ammo, but most of the ammo that real deer hunters are using is much more powerful.

In response to one of the previous threads, there's nothing at all wrong with using a semi-auto for hunting - thousands of ethical hunters do it on a regular basis. Just because the sks has a mean, military look to it doesn't make it any more powerful or dangerous. As this news story illustrates, it is the user that makes a firearm dangerous.

 

Yeah, SKS ammo is weak, similar to a 30/30 round. 30-06 and .308 are much more powerful.

I've always hunted with a semi auto. Got a nice Remington 7400 carbine, in 30-06. My dad had one in .308. Tho, some states limit hunting to lever action or bolt action rifles, or even shotgun only.

I wonder if he was using the 5 round mags, or had a magazine plug? We are limited to 4 (or is it 5?) rounds when hunting up here.

 

According to what I read there was only one firearm among the 8 victims (5 dead 3 wounded). Apparently they attempted deal with the person in a nonthreatening manner and got shot for their efforts. The SKS is the second most used rifle (Winchester '94 is first) for deer hunting in WI.

 

What makes this even worse is that this is just the kind of ammo (pun alert) that the anti-2nd amendment type will use to show how evil guns are.

I better stop now before I get carried away.

 

Oh, no kidding, there was only one of them armed - this degenerate plugged the whole bunch of them? I had the impression of some big gun battle.

 

.22LR is also very weak but it will still kill!

 

Virtually any ammo can be leathal, no matter if its a low caliber or a high caliber. What makes the difference between the two is the person behind the trigger and where their aim is.

Its sad though that that nutjob wouldn't come down off that deer stand and leave the property like he was asked to. And decided to kill folks just to get his point across!

 

Bad news, billsco.

It's my understanding that these Hmong "hunters" have yet to understand the hunting laws. From Laos origin, they just "go hunt" anywhere they deem huntable. It's a bad mix of misunderstanding and fear. I'm sure there's more to this story. Hope it comes out instead of all the gun-hating propaganda...which I doubt.

An aside: No matter what reasons come out - there is none for murder.

 

[QUOTE=Boss_358] Some of them asians are really shady to be around when hunting. From what is sounds like there have been quite a few mishaps with them. Another thing is they will kill and eat anything and in some cases have very little regard for any poaching laws whatsoever. QUOTE]


Careful. We don't want to start any racial profiling. Keep in mind you've got some asian and part asian FTE members on this board. Myself included. I wouldn't let one or two gun related incidents lead me to a negative opinion on a certain race of hunter. There are safe gun handling asians out there, myself included. A lot of different races kill and eat almost anything as well as poach, not just asians. I watched a recent episode of Outdoor Oklahoma as they tracked down and caught two deer poachers; white guys.

Personally, I wonder if he was really out there to hunt animals? or something else? I'll wait to hear more before forming an opinion.

 

Again - misunderstanding and fear, cigarxtc. There's something here that we're not being told...at least not yet. I'll wait, myself, for the facts.

 

I live just a few miles from where this took place.
Here is the DETAILED local news story from Wausau, WI
http://www.waow.com/news/full_story....b2bfca31e140f6

The SKS rifle that he was using is not all that common around here for hunting. Especially since he had a 20 round clip in it, that was empty when they found him....
What a wacko. Be careful out there.
MK

 

My thoughts exactly. I know a lot of people who hunt out west with semi-autos. We don't have any trouble like that out here.

 

I was just getting ready to post this.

My worry is about the anti-gun advocates. Just more "ammo" for THEIR guns....