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From: Valley of the Sun AZ
Originally Posted by Birdhunter1
Would the ESL be the abbreviation for english sign language by chance. I took a full year of American sign language for my foreign language credits. I graduated in May of 2004 with a BA in Administration of Justice and a minor in Political Science, I double majored in the two for a while but changed the POLS to a minor to graduate early.. I also have an Associates in Applied Sciences in HVACR technology and was a sheetmetal worker for three years. I actually thought when I started on my bachelors degree that I would probably never use my AS degree again, I was wrong. I used that degree to get the job I have now that pays more than nay cop job I ever looked at, now i only hope I'll never have to use my BA degree.
I also hold a Ph.D. in BS, BS'ing or however you want to look at it.
I also hold a Ph.D. in BS, BS'ing or however you want to look at it.
No, it is English as a Second Language
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From: The hills of No. Calif.
I'm just another high school graduate. My guidance counselor in high school told me I wasn't college material, and I actually listened to him for once! I have taken some JC courses over the years, First Aid, EMT I, Antique Automoble Refinishing, Music Theory...all very useful things. And of course I have over 40 years of Life Experience...(doesn't look too impressive on a resume, however) -TD
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From: KCMO
I've been an engineer most of my life, and frequently hear engineer jokes intermixed with disparaging remarks. It's an engineer's job in life to interpret scientific principles and to find practical methods of applying them to benefit humanity. Some of these applications have never before been attempted, and it's not unusual that some don't work. A real big part of progress is trial and error - if we only attempted what we know for sure will work, that's repetition, not innovation.
All over the world are fine examples of buildings, bridges, factories, machines, etc. And, yes, they were all built by ordinary working people. But these folks didn't just walk out to a pile of bricks or steel and start putting things together at random. They didn't just happen to find welders and tractors and pumps hidden under some bushes. They work from plans, that come from designs, that are verified by experiments. Yes, engineers make mistakes, because they're human too. Non-engineers who take special delight in pointing out these mistakes are only trying to bolster their own ego with their hindsight. My first inclination is to tell them to do it better themselves, but I prefer to consider the source, and not worry about individuals who try to make themselves appear better than others by trying to make others appear worse.
To put this hijack back on subject, I have a master's degree in mechanical engineering, and am an extremely hands-on person. I take special delight in knowing all the facets of any project I'm involved with, and I take offense in senseless remarks about engineers sitting on their butts all day spouting useless platitudes. (EOR)
All over the world are fine examples of buildings, bridges, factories, machines, etc. And, yes, they were all built by ordinary working people. But these folks didn't just walk out to a pile of bricks or steel and start putting things together at random. They didn't just happen to find welders and tractors and pumps hidden under some bushes. They work from plans, that come from designs, that are verified by experiments. Yes, engineers make mistakes, because they're human too. Non-engineers who take special delight in pointing out these mistakes are only trying to bolster their own ego with their hindsight. My first inclination is to tell them to do it better themselves, but I prefer to consider the source, and not worry about individuals who try to make themselves appear better than others by trying to make others appear worse.
To put this hijack back on subject, I have a master's degree in mechanical engineering, and am an extremely hands-on person. I take special delight in knowing all the facets of any project I'm involved with, and I take offense in senseless remarks about engineers sitting on their butts all day spouting useless platitudes. (EOR)
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