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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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I need some advice and I hope you or someone can help me. My 2000 Ford Ranger and failed the emissions test because of a Code PO401: EGR Flow insufficient.
So I bought a new EGR valve from NAPA and got the two bolts off the the old EGR valve but could not get the big nut off the back that goes to the intake manifold.
I have read many posts but have not found any complaints about getting that bottom nut off. I can barely get an open end wrench around it. It seems that the 1 and 1/16th inch goes around it OK. There just isn't enough room to turn the wrench. How can I get the dang thing off and replace it with the new EGR Valve I just bought? If I get it changed and it doesn't solve the problem I am wondering how will I find the DPFE? In case that is the problem.

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I was trying to save $ the Ford Dealer wants to charge. Now I feel like I should have gone there in the first place.
 

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tasian
I need some advice and I hope you or someone can help me. My 2000 Ford Ranger and failed the emissions test because of a Code PO401: EGR Flow insufficient.
So I bought a new EGR valve from NAPA and got the two bolts off the the old EGR valve but could not get the big nut off the back that goes to the intake manifold.
I have read many posts but have not found any complaints about getting that bottom nut off. I can barely get an open end wrench around it. It seems that the 1 and 1/16th inch goes around it OK. There just isn't enough room to turn the wrench. How can I get the dang thing off and replace it with the new EGR Valve I just bought? If I get it changed and it doesn't solve the problem I am wondering how will I find the DPFE? In case that is the problem.

Thanks,
I was trying to save $ the Ford Dealer wants to charge. Now I feel like I should have gone there in the first place.
This post should really have been posted in the Ranger forum. Ironically, however, I just helped my friend fix a 2000 model ranger pulling the same code; it is the sensor and not the valve. I assume you have the 3.0 motor. I will email you concerning it tonight; however try to keep posts/threads in the designated area.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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I am still loving being "unplugged." Averaged 22.4 last Sunday driving 3 hours from Sanford to Myrtle Beach. Filled up and left Myrtle Beach Thursday afternoon, averaged 21.8 back to Sanford. Hooked up my 7,000 boat and pulled her 2 hours up to Kerr Lake. Back and forth to the ramp two days and then 2 hours back to Sanford on a tank. She held 26.4 gallons, 404 miles on the tank. She seems a little better while towing. She comes off the line like a rocket!!

Oh, forgot, June 03 engine build with original flash.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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I disconnected the EGR last week after reading this thread and have the following observations;
1. Seems to be quieter
2. Two tanks of fuel later, looks to be getting 1+ mpg increase.
3. Turbo starts to spool up around 800~900 compared to 1100
4. Did not remove the throttle plate

This is in an '03 F350 SRW build date 01/03 with a turbo back Magnaflow with the factory converter reinstalled, an AFE intake system and a Predator at the 65 HP setting. I see no reason to ever reconnect the EGR unless it's going back to the dealer.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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SBV and PSD, Thanks for the input. I put the 65 HP flash in tonight and and took it for test run. I'm going to need tires sooner than expected. Unbelievable power. I do think it is quieter too. Except when I get on it and then it sounds sweet. Thanks again.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Ok ok ok...I just can't stand it anymore. If I can dig 15 - 20 seconds out of my busy schedule this evening I guess I'll pull that dang EGR plug.

I should have time since I'm passing on my weekly Tuesday night "Beer drinking / money gambling with the buddies night".

No wait...it'll take me longer 'cause I'll have to break out the little step ladder first. Maybe I'll start carrying that thing in the back of the truck.

Anyways...it seems that there is not a lot of info on the '04 engine builds regarding this so I'll you kids know what I experience.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Do some quantitative before and after measuremnts...
like how long it takes to runt o the beer joint WITH it connected...
and how long without it.....

You know, scientific measurements !!!!
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Ruint plan. 30 pack sittin' in the frig, in the garage as we speak. No beer run necessary.

Hey! I could do the Lotto run though....yeah....cool.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Think about it, You have to have a higher amount of exhaust pressure before the turbo to build boost out of the turbo. That is how it all works.
So you will always have more exhaust pressure than boost,
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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That often happens when I drink to much beer. More exhaust pressure before turbo boost.

Sorry...to easy.

But I am not happy. Cost me $ 50.00 to to unplug that goofy thing.

After I pulled the plug I told the Momma that I was gonna take the Beast for a little spin. The Momma said "Fine. You can take us all for a little spin. Right down the street to Chilli's"

So there I sat in Chilli's, family in tow, with the Beast resting quietly in the parking lot. $ 50.00 later I still can't tell if there is any diiference in anything except my wallet.

I couldn't even tell if it was running quieter because the on-board juke box was to loud. Something abount a new Ashley Simpson CD. Not sure, couldn't hear.

Guess I'll find out if the Beast runs different tomorrow.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Count on one thing, the engine won't choke on it's own exhaust
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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FYI,
The 2003 trucks have a MAFS (mass air flow sensor) It works with a hot wire (392* F) and a cold sensor wire to operate the EGR.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Ok got to drive the Beast a bit today. Maybe a little quieter but hard to tell with these old time R & R ears. Seems to lessen any dead pedal. Not that I had much problem to start with. Actually seems to be somewhat more responsive overall though.

A real funny and I don't know why thing? The A/C seems to work better. Is it just because our local humidity is a little lower today?

Is it possible that unplugging the EGR could impact A/C in any way?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Hmmm...
good point -
maybe that the engine is more efficient without all the "stuff" being dumped into it and it can give more "oomph" to the a/c ???? who knows...
but again one of those we'll never know ones
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Hmmm...
good point -
maybe that the engine is more efficient without all the "stuff" being dumped into it and it can give more "oomph" to the a/c ???? who knows...
but again one of those we'll never know ones
It would be interesting to know just how many PPM's and CFM's of junk the EGR actually recirculates through the motor...

Hey, can one of you Texas boys tell me how long of a drive it is from Houston to Dallas? Im sending in applications to both Georgia Tech and Rice here in the next month; just curious to how far the drive is. Houston is about 16 hours from where I live. Does anyone know how the standards of the school are?
 
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