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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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swapping a 460 into a 351m

hey guys i am swapping in a 460 to my 77 and was wondering if there was any thing i should know . i have done some research and found out some stuff but what i need to know is the block number, i dont know the year of my donor motor, i came out of a 79 f250 but it was also a swap, the numbers on my block were hand stamped number that are 9z628392, it was bolted to a standard and i am going to a c-6.are the flexplates differant per year?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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You need a properly balanced 460 flexplate. You'll be able to tell if it is by the presence or absence of a counterweight on the flywheel of the motor you have. There will also either be a counterweight behind the balancer, or the balancer will have a cutaway area if it's externally balanced. An internally balanced motor will have no weight behind the balancer or cutaway.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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there is no cut out on the balancer and there are no counter wights on the flywheel
 
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Nor a triangle-shaped lump behind the balancer cast into the spacer, I suppose? Right, then. Internal balance. Make sure you get a 460 internal-balance flexplate (boneyard, Summit, whatever) and you should be ok...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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aren't all 385 seiries internaily balanced
 
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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IIRC, they're externally balanced '79 and up.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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I like the '78 and earlier Lincoln motors, they make good rework+stab-it-in swaps for M motors. Rod caps are a little thin for serious work, you should use ARP bottom-end fasteners in any case if you plan on gittin' on it. Earlier football-head rods (if you luck out and find a PI motor f'rinstance) or marine rods are needed for hi-output builds. The cranks are beautiful hi-nodular pieces that when combined with the good rods and properly balanced and fastened down with ARP main studs with a windage tray will wind out almost like a smallblock! Ford cast cranks are pretty tough. The intake ports are beautiful and need minimal cleanup. Combined with a Weiand Stealth, you'll get both bottom end and a fat midrange. The Offy Port-O-Sonic is a good manifold for 500+ HP Mustang twisters. The exhaust port is a complete disaster and needs a bit of work on the port roof to flow respectably. Looking in at the walve window shows a nasty EGR-inducing lump right in the way of exhaust flow that just has to go in order to uncork things. Removing that alone is worth a noticeable difference. A street 460 makes best power with 750-850 CFM carburetor, (depending on the cam you're using and how high you want to spin it), but a 600 square-bore will will bolt right on the factory manifold with a Summit carb plate if you're looking for something just a little warmed-over with better mileage. Headers are a necessary element of proper breathing; it's already choked up on the exhaust side by the puny port.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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it is going in a 2wd prerunner and i am going to keep it as stock as possible for now. so a fly wheel for an internally balanced motor ok then i am going to double check for the triangle hump, thank you i will keep you posted on the progress. oh one more thing, can i use the control module from my 351 on the 460 distributer?
 
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Yep, all blue-grommet Duraspark II boxes are the same. Plug for the distributor should be the same, too.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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thanx man!
 
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