Bulletproof Steering Systems
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Bulletproof Steering Systems
I posted this here instead of in the steering forum because these steering setups are advertised as being for offroad use. Has anyone used a bulletproof steering setup from Performance Unlimited? My main questions are whether or not they are legal in states that have vehicle inspections (PA) and if they work as well as they claim. I really hate my inverted y steering, and was looking at this system as opposed to buying a 78-79 style. Any and all thoughts, fire away 
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And I qoute from their website
"Q: Are your Bullet Proof Steering Systems™ street legal?
A: We do not state that they are or they are not because we just are not aware of each and every State's ever changing individual restrictions, so it is the customers sole responsibility to make that final determination and decision. Most States have no determining guidelines one way or anther regarding specific steering components. Since most OEM replacement components do not harbor any official certification, approval, licensing or testing labels and identification, we are not aware of any single governing body that identifies or certifies steering components. Regardless, our components have proven to far exceed many OEM components in both quality and durability in the harshest of environments and most demanding applications."
and you ask does it work? try this page http://bulletproofsteering.com/news/testimonials.html
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"Q: Are your Bullet Proof Steering Systems™ street legal?
A: We do not state that they are or they are not because we just are not aware of each and every State's ever changing individual restrictions, so it is the customers sole responsibility to make that final determination and decision. Most States have no determining guidelines one way or anther regarding specific steering components. Since most OEM replacement components do not harbor any official certification, approval, licensing or testing labels and identification, we are not aware of any single governing body that identifies or certifies steering components. Regardless, our components have proven to far exceed many OEM components in both quality and durability in the harshest of environments and most demanding applications."
and you ask does it work? try this page http://bulletproofsteering.com/news/testimonials.html
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Yeah, I read every scrap they had on the website. I was hoping for someone here who had it to tell me what they thought. As far as the legality, it is tough to find out what to do since if they can't say it is legal, can in inspection station say it is illegal? Another thought I have is using my spare knuckles for this setup, and if it ever "becomes" illegal, swapping to the originals for inspection.
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I did a LOT of research on their systems a while back and everything I came up with was positive. I am planning on going with them when I go to x-over steering. Only thing I don't like it trying to navigate their nightmare of a website . . . too much clutter and crap man, it gives me a massive headache just looking at it. 
I don't think using their parts would be any more an issue for inspection than any other crossover steering setup. My guess is the inspection station wouldn't even think twice about it but, as with any mod, you don't know until you get there. There was something on Pirate a while back about a guy taking a rig with full hydro steering through inspection and passing. You never know.
Plus for a limited time you can you can get all your parts chromed so how could you possibly go wrong?
I don't think using their parts would be any more an issue for inspection than any other crossover steering setup. My guess is the inspection station wouldn't even think twice about it but, as with any mod, you don't know until you get there. There was something on Pirate a while back about a guy taking a rig with full hydro steering through inspection and passing. You never know.
Plus for a limited time you can you can get all your parts chromed so how could you possibly go wrong?
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These are all ideas I am throwing around. I like the idea of "factory" parts because you can grease them. Superlift makes the adjustable drag link and track arm. According to the bulletproof website, there are different quality rod ends, and if you get the cheap ones, then they will wear and rattle. The problem with all of them is that they are nongreasable. Bulletproof claims that theirs are teflon coated, and thus permenantly lubed. I would hate to go all out making one only to find out it is worn out in about a year. A factory type 78-79 setup will cost a few $$, so I was looking at whether this would be financially comparable.
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Tell me more, guys. Do you have to bore out the knuckle to fit the chevy ends? Also, did the drag link connect to the chevy tie rod or what? Does a standard chevy truck tie rod setup (including adjusting sleeve) just go on? This is the first I have heard of this, and it sounds like a more economical solution. Thanks, Ted
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thats a quarter laying next to them for an idea of the size..
the threads are 7/8-18 r/r and one l/h
its cheaper to buy weld in inserts, cause the lh thread tap is very hard to find and mucho $$$
i used 1.5 inch 3/8 wall dom
drilled ends to 1 inch to weld in inserts
you will have to get your pitman arm reamed to fit the larger taper...i would put a crossover arm on the 44, for the tie rod i would use the same tube, but put some heims in flip it
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Yea, Ho covered it nicely. I used tre's for everything, and I usually recomend them for steering applications in rigs that see road use. But I think next time I replace my tie rod ends I'll just use heims...theres no angled load on them and a high quality heim like a Qa-1 would do fine.
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Thanks guys. About the parts, do either of you have part#s for the stuff you used? Also, can you guys post a couple of close up pics of everything so I can see how it was made? It sounds possible, but since I used F150 stuff, I am not sure how crossover steering would work. I have to be careful to keep the drag link and track bar on the same plane. Regardless, thanks again, Ted
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re: are they legal
I believe Federal law requires that a vehicle be steerable with the loss of engine power (same with braking or automatic locking of brakes with the loss of air on big trucks) and from a quick browse of the site it appears that it is not an all hydraulic system so I see no reason why it would not be street legal.
I believe Federal law requires that a vehicle be steerable with the loss of engine power (same with braking or automatic locking of brakes with the loss of air on big trucks) and from a quick browse of the site it appears that it is not an all hydraulic system so I see no reason why it would not be street legal.
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