2003 camless diesel ???
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2003 camless diesel ???
I followed, with great interest, all of International
and FoMoCo announcements and bally-hoo of the
comming camless engine in 2003. Didn't happen! Why?
My guess is: Ford got "cold feet" and lost their
nerve. Too big a gamble on new technology??? I was
all set to order one. My 2001 Excursion with 7.3L has met
all my expectations, except for inadiquate brakes.
A 4 ton truck needs BIG brakes!!
I'm not shy about supporting companies who dare to push the
envelope, starting with the purchase of the first aluminum V-8, offered by Oldsmobile, in the 1961 F-85. Loved it so much,
I bought a 1962 Buick Skylark with a slightely modified
version of the same aluminum engine.
The reviews on the new 6.0 L PSD (with a Cam) have all been
"glowing" and it is probably a very fine engine. Mated with
the new 5 speed auto, it's a tempting package.
Nahh! I'll wait and see if Ford gets their nerve back.
Would like to hear what You think happened to the "camless".
Happy Motoring, JTW
and FoMoCo announcements and bally-hoo of the
comming camless engine in 2003. Didn't happen! Why?
My guess is: Ford got "cold feet" and lost their
nerve. Too big a gamble on new technology??? I was
all set to order one. My 2001 Excursion with 7.3L has met
all my expectations, except for inadiquate brakes.
A 4 ton truck needs BIG brakes!!
I'm not shy about supporting companies who dare to push the
envelope, starting with the purchase of the first aluminum V-8, offered by Oldsmobile, in the 1961 F-85. Loved it so much,
I bought a 1962 Buick Skylark with a slightely modified
version of the same aluminum engine.
The reviews on the new 6.0 L PSD (with a Cam) have all been
"glowing" and it is probably a very fine engine. Mated with
the new 5 speed auto, it's a tempting package.
Nahh! I'll wait and see if Ford gets their nerve back.
Would like to hear what You think happened to the "camless".
Happy Motoring, JTW
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2003 camless diesel ???
I don't know where you got your information but either you misunderstood or it was incorrect. The camless engines were never slated for production for 2003, maybe 2007 at the earliest. The technology isn't ready yet, and may not be by 2007. The R&D guys have got a truck with the camless technology adapted to the 466 inline six cylinder engine that they have been running all over the country. They had it at the Indianapolis plant last Spring. I don't know what kinds of problems they are having but I can assure you that when the technology is ready, they'll be tripping over themselves to bring it to the market place.
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2003 camless diesel ???
This 'cam-less' engine, is it a 2-stroke?? I dont see how you can have a 4 stroke engine without some kind of cam, or cams, to operate the valves... or does it not have valves that open and close as we know them? I cant imagine electric solenoids being used to open and close valves iether... Additional information is definitely needed here!
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2003 camless diesel ???
Still gonna be a 4-stroke, but as I understand it, the valves will be operated hydraulicaly (sp?), rather than the usual cam, pushrod, rocker... I was talking to a diesel mechanic friend from OZ, and he told me that some big rigs already use this technology.
Why couldn't a solenoid be used, do you think?
Sud-z
Why couldn't a solenoid be used, do you think?
Sud-z
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2003 camless diesel ???
Thanks for setting me straight! Guess I'm too eager.
Actually, the camless idea is only a small step towards
achieving clean, econimical transportation. There are
many great technologies that have been dabbled with and
put on the shelf. One of my favorites is the composit
engine, jointly developed by NASA and FORD, during
the 70's. More recently, silicone engines are in the news.
Imagine an engine that has so little friction between
moving parts that lube oil is not required. No heat
escapes from the combustion chamber, except out the exhoust.
No cooling system required. That prospect, as exciting
as it would be if we had it NOW, will only become available
when fuel prices are high enough to completely off-set
any advantage the technology would give to the consumer.
"NO NEW TECHNOLOGY BEFORE IT's TIME" J.T.W.
Actually, the camless idea is only a small step towards
achieving clean, econimical transportation. There are
many great technologies that have been dabbled with and
put on the shelf. One of my favorites is the composit
engine, jointly developed by NASA and FORD, during
the 70's. More recently, silicone engines are in the news.
Imagine an engine that has so little friction between
moving parts that lube oil is not required. No heat
escapes from the combustion chamber, except out the exhoust.
No cooling system required. That prospect, as exciting
as it would be if we had it NOW, will only become available
when fuel prices are high enough to completely off-set
any advantage the technology would give to the consumer.
"NO NEW TECHNOLOGY BEFORE IT's TIME" J.T.W.
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2003 camless diesel ???
>Imagine an engine that has so little friction between
>moving parts that lube oil is not required. No heat
>escapes from the combustion chamber, except out the exhoust.
>No cooling system required.
Gee, I think I have something like this sitting in my garage, just waiting for spring. It's called a '65 Corvair Monza.
>moving parts that lube oil is not required. No heat
>escapes from the combustion chamber, except out the exhoust.
>No cooling system required.
Gee, I think I have something like this sitting in my garage, just waiting for spring. It's called a '65 Corvair Monza.
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