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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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bell housing bolt pattern

can I get a 5 speed out of a 1 ton with a 351 4x4 and put it behind my six? the reason being, I would like to have a granny gear, and not lose my overdrive. I just dont know if the bellhousing is the same.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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One problem with your information...the cleveland has a small block bolt pattern. Just food for thought.
Edit: it will work, just need a flywheel for a 300.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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yup cleveland uses the SB bolt pattern, same as the 300
 
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RiveraD123
can I get a 5 speed out of a 1 ton with a 351 4x4 and put it behind my six? the reason being, I would like to have a granny gear, and not lose my overdrive. I just dont know if the bellhousing is the same.
Is your truck a 4x4 too?
2wd and 4wd transmissions are different. 2wd transmissions have a bolt-on yoke or slipyolk, 4wd transmission just have a spined outputshaft for the transfercase.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 03:23 AM
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if ya'll are talkin about the ZF 5 spd, i have a question...what's the overdrive gear ratio on that tranny? anybody know?

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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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Lil' bit of info

A quick rundown on Ford Bell Housings.
The [early '80s] V-6's, Straight six's, "90 DegreeV" Small blocks [221/260/289/302/302 Boss/351w], 351 Cleveland,351 Boss, all use small block housing. {Not real sure about the "new" 289/Cobra, but would assume that they do.}
351M/400[Tall block Clevelands, ], "FE" famliy [332/352/360/361/390/391/406/410/427/428], "385 Family" [429/429 Boss/460] all use the big block housing.
As for the Four cyclinder engines of Ford, ain't got a clue. Hope this helps!
 
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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The FE family does not use the same bellhousing as the 385 family, Its differant. I dont mean to be negative, but I have built many FE engines, and they are not the same.
 
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FE family uses its own bellhousing pattern

351m, 400 (other then a few rare 1973 400s with a SB pattern) 429, 460, 6.9L diesel all have the same bolt pattern.
with automatics they interchange perfectly.
351m, 400 can use a manual bellhousing from a 429/460.
Sometimes there is a problem when you bolt a 429, 460, 6.9L diesel to a bellhousing that was an original 351m/400 bellhousing. sometimes you need a 3/8" spacer plate to make room for the flywheel/clutch/inputshaft.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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5 speed for a 1984 F2504wd

It may be in the posts above, but if it is there, I am not finding it. I have a 1984 4WD 300six in a F250. It has the stock granny 4 speed. Can I substitute a ZF trans to pick up a 5th gear to improve the mileage? Will ANY ZF 5 speed bolt in, or only those from specific applications? Thanks for any help. JimG
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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JimG: You can substitute a ZF for the T-18/19. The following engines have the same bell housing bolt pattern. 300-302-351W-351C. So you can pull the trans from a truck with any of those 4 engines.

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