K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
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K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
>Ever heard of an oil bath filtration? It's
>>been around for years!
>
>Yup,my 62yr.old Ford tractor has it.
Of course!!! I've had lots of vehicles with oil bath filtration!
But they all idled and ran fine.I bet the 62 yr old tractor can tick those cylinders off alot better than these new advanced oil impregnated
filtered boat anchors! They don't even make good boat anchors they're
aluminum!
'
'''
My question was, is all the trouble they cause, worth the gain of 1-2 hp at most? My answer is No!Whats a Maf cost? $150-$200????? I don't know but it ain't cheap,down time when you have stop and clean it.
Rich
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not with rocks
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>>been around for years!
>
>Yup,my 62yr.old Ford tractor has it.
Of course!!! I've had lots of vehicles with oil bath filtration!
But they all idled and ran fine.I bet the 62 yr old tractor can tick those cylinders off alot better than these new advanced oil impregnated
filtered boat anchors! They don't even make good boat anchors they're
aluminum!
'
'''My question was, is all the trouble they cause, worth the gain of 1-2 hp at most? My answer is No!Whats a Maf cost? $150-$200????? I don't know but it ain't cheap,down time when you have stop and clean it.
Rich
Ford Trucks Built Tough!
not with rocks
Watch out "X" Mayor of Truckville
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K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
What??? Now we're FOR new technology- like paper filters? Man, I'm having a hard time keeping up with which side of the fence to be on. 
Seriously, I hope no one buys K&N (or similar) filters just for their supposed peformance gain. Even if they did give you 3 HP, that quickly goes away as the filter does it's job & becomes "dirty". The best reason to have one is for the savings in cost of replacement paper filters.
Also, I would say that very few of the many thousands of filters being used have caused problems. And they do filter very well. Most of the concern about bug & water injestion is unfounded. We "mud-bogged" our previous '97 Expedition and the K&N filter kept the intake PERFECTLY CLEAN. This wasn't thick mud either- one person left their vent on and water came through the ducts. I can assure you that if the filter didn't work, the intake would have been full of muddy water too- especially since the K&N was open under the hood. See some muddy pics and K&N mod in the gallery.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&albumid=34
BTW, I never did get all the mud out of the engine compartment.
Seriously, I hope no one buys K&N (or similar) filters just for their supposed peformance gain. Even if they did give you 3 HP, that quickly goes away as the filter does it's job & becomes "dirty". The best reason to have one is for the savings in cost of replacement paper filters.
Also, I would say that very few of the many thousands of filters being used have caused problems. And they do filter very well. Most of the concern about bug & water injestion is unfounded. We "mud-bogged" our previous '97 Expedition and the K&N filter kept the intake PERFECTLY CLEAN. This wasn't thick mud either- one person left their vent on and water came through the ducts. I can assure you that if the filter didn't work, the intake would have been full of muddy water too- especially since the K&N was open under the hood. See some muddy pics and K&N mod in the gallery.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&albumid=34
BTW, I never did get all the mud out of the engine compartment.
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K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
>What??? Now we're FOR new technology- like paper filters?
>Man, I'm having a hard time keeping up with which side of
>the fence to be on.
Nomo we don't know which side of the fence your on with that x grill
in that superduty!
>':-X23'':-X23''
'''
>Seriously, I hope no one buys K&N (or similar) filters just
>for their supposed peformance gain. Even if they did give
>you 3 HP, that quickly goes away as the filter does it's job
>& becomes "dirty".
I would hope they wouldn't expect hp gains!
<The best reason to have one is for the savings in cost of replacement paper filters.
why risk the chance of $150-200 for a maf/to cost of a paper filter
I can change alot of paper filters for that money.
>
>Also, I would say that very few of the many thousands of
>filters being used have caused problems. And they do filter
>very well.
Hey abendx had problems an he doesn't go off road and the jerks at k/n
laughed at him .when told them about their filters causing problems.
just my thoughts
Rich
Ford Trucks Built Tough!
not with rocks
Watch out "X" Mayor of Truckville
>Man, I'm having a hard time keeping up with which side of
>the fence to be on.
Nomo we don't know which side of the fence your on with that x grill
in that superduty!
>':-X23'':-X23''
'''>Seriously, I hope no one buys K&N (or similar) filters just
>for their supposed peformance gain. Even if they did give
>you 3 HP, that quickly goes away as the filter does it's job
>& becomes "dirty".
I would hope they wouldn't expect hp gains!
<The best reason to have one is for the savings in cost of replacement paper filters.
why risk the chance of $150-200 for a maf/to cost of a paper filter
I can change alot of paper filters for that money.
>
>Also, I would say that very few of the many thousands of
>filters being used have caused problems. And they do filter
>very well.
Hey abendx had problems an he doesn't go off road and the jerks at k/n
laughed at him .when told them about their filters causing problems.
just my thoughts
Rich
Ford Trucks Built Tough!
not with rocks
Watch out "X" Mayor of Truckville
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K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
You mean I didn't pick up extra HP when I bolted my K&N on???
:-staunDam..it felt a lot quicker!!! NOT.
The only thing the K&N FIPK does better than the stock system is look cooler, not worth the $$$.
:-staunDam..it felt a lot quicker!!! NOT.
The only thing the K&N FIPK does better than the stock system is look cooler, not worth the $$$.
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K&N Filter and MAF Sensor problem
I'm on neither side of the fence... still caught up in the barbed wire! 
>Hey abendx had problems an he doesn't go off road and the
>jerks at k/n laughed at him .when told them about their filters >causing problems.
Never said the filters can't cause problems nor did I intend to infer that K&N is a great company (I actually don't think they are). Just stating what I believe to be true. There are many thousands of K&N-type filters being used but only a handful of MAF failures. With those kinds of numbers, it's difficult to say the filters are universally "bad".
>Hey abendx had problems an he doesn't go off road and the
>jerks at k/n laughed at him .when told them about their filters >causing problems.
Never said the filters can't cause problems nor did I intend to infer that K&N is a great company (I actually don't think they are). Just stating what I believe to be true. There are many thousands of K&N-type filters being used but only a handful of MAF failures. With those kinds of numbers, it's difficult to say the filters are universally "bad".
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