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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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On a recent trip to Great Britain,Powell conceed to some British officals that there may not be any WMD in Iraq.So if they weren't there,what are we doing there?Did we invade Iraq for the wrong reasons?I sure hope not.This may become a big issue for Bush.Was he too quick to the draw?How do you fell on this issue?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Over Christmas I flew up to see some friends and relatives in New York on a weapon of mass destruction. Miami International Airport was full of them
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Im sure the situation wont help Bush any, but according to poll I saw today the large majority support the war regardless of wmd. Bush wasnt the only one who thought Saddam had them. Most Reps and Dems, including the ones trying to use this against Bush now, the U.N. , france, germany, russia, England, and many, many others all thought he had them. I dont care if he did or not, he had every intention of reconstituting his arsenal as soon as sanctions were lifted, and some of those weapons would have ended up being used against us.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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Saddam & his Sons were WMD.

that is good enough for me
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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All this back and forth about the "WMD justification" is just mostly BS. When old Saddam Insane squirted "Laughing Gas" all over the Irianian troops and dispatched several thousand at a time we didn't seem to care as I remember. WE, ALSO supplied Iraq with Chemical weapons, as did France, Germany and others. When he killed thousands of Kurds nobody seemed to get upset . So Bush's Assertion that WMD's are a Justifiable Excuse for Commencing War on Iraq just don't hold up.
............What does make sense is that W.jr. made up his mind that he was going to finish UP what Sr. couldn't because he didn't want his FAMILY to keep being asked the Question....."Why didn't the Old MAN kill the Bustard while he\we was already over there???
...........I'm also sure that there are More reasons than we know about ....BUT not enough to EXPEND the quantity of men and material that it is going to take before we finally exit that Quagmire of a country. .........s.kuteman
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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Not that Iraq was about WMD as noted, but.....

Saddam had them at one time and we all know that guys with billions of (American) dollars don't just throw their toys away. Saddam, being the lefty he is, would call that fiscal conservatism. All liberals like the term, if not much else, about that.

Shoot, when you have money and the krauts and frenchies try to stall (heck, Sad got 14 months to plan his moves!!!) who knows across which border the WMD in question may have ended up!

I'll have to find out more, but word was another of the inspectors found signs the weps were transported to Syria. If Sad can't finish off Israel, help someone else out who really wants to do so!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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You cannot depend on the mainstream media to give you truthful info. Recently, a pile of scrap steel came out of Iraq. What was accidentally found in it? Yellow cake uranium!! They had way too much time to get rid of the evidence before Enduring Freedom commenced.

You guys want truth about what's going on? Check out www.warroom.com. He gets the truth out on the air 5 days a week.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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Yeah, and like Iraq is worse off since we took care of the madman.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:33 AM
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It seems Tony Blair is taking a lot of heat on this issue,so i expect the democrats will make this an issue as well.The issue of WMD is the main reason we had to go it alone.Other nations weren't so sure of the WMD stockpiles as we were.I agree the Saddam was an evil tryant who had to go.In presenting our case to the U.N.,we portrayed the weapons issue in a way that we felt there wasn't a moment to spare.I know,the U.N.doesn't doesn't work,but isn't that the procedure for invading another country under those circumstances?We just sidesteped the U.N. in a rush to get those weapons without taking the time to put pressure on the nations who didn't want to help us.This issue may sway enough voters to second guess Bush on foreign policy matters.He didn't exactly have a landslide victory when elected.At least we all support our troops,no matter the outcome of this issue.They just don't seem to be able to find the stockpile of weapons we claimed were there.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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I agree that the issue of WMD may be detrimental to the Bush campaign. Did Sadam need to be removed -Definitely! (IMHO) Did Bush need to move as quickly as he did? I think not. Bush ihas not strong on foreign diplomacy and the USA would have been better served had we taken more time to win more support through diplomatic means before invading Iraq. No question the American public supports our troops but not all support Bush's methods. The key to a democratic victory will be in whether the Dems can select a strong candidate and then unify behind that one person.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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Im glad Bush did what he did. I dont want the U.N. to have any say whatsoever in American affairs. The U.N. would not even exist if not for us for that matter, and for the record, we didnt go it alone. There are more countries involved this time than there were in Desert Storm. Bush isnt the only one who insisted Saddam had wmd. Tony Blair had to have really believed it to stick his neck out like ha did. Im sure that much of the faulty intel was given to us from Israel, and they did it intentionally. Someone commented about us not caring when Saddam gassed the Iranians. They were and still are a worse enemy than Saddam and I wish he would have killed more of them. If Bush had bowed to the U.N. it would have been seen by our enemies as weakness, and a projection of weakness invites aggression.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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There are more countries involved this time than there were in Desert Storm.
As far as I'm concerned, if countries aren't providing military help / relief, and substantial monetary support, I could care less if they supposedly "support" our cause. Desert Storm saw military troops from many nations as well as many billions of dollars of contributions. This war is VERY different, the American taxpayer is paying for the overwhelming majority of it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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WMD ????? The BIGGEST WMD is the Middleast attitude towards the west that was taught to an isolated poor group of people by zealots either religous or power hungry.
They are capable of turning the fuel tank of a 87 Subaru into a WMD let alone a large passenger plane.
Hunting down and shutting down by force if neccessary is the right of any free nation that wants a safe and secure world to live in. The poor people of the Middle East are hungry for knowledge about FREEDOM and once we FREE Irag and other countries see the way FREEDOM works other poeple in other countries will FREE themselves will little or no help from the US or anyone else.
WMD ??????? The worst WMD is a MIND bent on destroying lives and property.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by jskufan
As far as I'm concerned, if countries aren't providing military help / relief, and substantial monetary support, I could care less if they supposedly "support" our cause. Desert Storm saw military troops from many nations as well as many billions of dollars of contributions. This war is VERY different, the American taxpayer is paying for the overwhelming majority of it.
Yes, desert storm saw troops from many nations but the U.S., Brits, and Aussies did all the fighting. The only Arab troops that fired a shot in anger were the Saudis at Khafgi (sp?).
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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dont be bamboozled people the only reason georgie boy went to war is cause sadaam threatened to and tried to get a hit squad to take out georgie boy senior. little boy georgie was just showing off for daddy.was sadaam a bad guy YES was he violating like every convieveable accepted way of treating his countrymen? YES Is that the business of the worlds police force ( the US) NO. I was and am all for taking care of afghanastan but iraq was unnecessary. good old adolph bush was headed to lybia next that is why good old momar is allowing bush to more or less be his puppeteer. give bush foour more years he will invade them terrorists in Cuba too. ( i dont support castro but what he does to his people is their problem not ours)
this will prolly start a war here, but hey we are all entitled to our views and thats mine. while i may disagree with some of you other guys opinions that is one of the great things about this country we are all free to have our individual opinions.
 
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