I won't make any comment on whether we were right or wrong with the invastion in Iraq but I did hear from a reliabile source that we are looking for WMD but have no intentions of finding them. What is there and buried or hidden will stay there. We sure don't want any other over zealous wierdos out there in that great big sand dune (WHICH WILL MAKE A GREAT RESORT SOMEDAY) looking for those WMD. This particular source, from one of the branches of our military stated that there are lots of WMD just decomposing and will stay right where their at. Now I am only repeating what I had heard and if we have any men that served over there (GOD BESS 'EM) I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say. I dare say I'd trust what came out of their mouths more than anyone here that repeats what some news agency has printed. Left or right wing it doesn't matter. Sometimes we all are better off not knowing the truth.

 

NO, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. Ever since the weapons inspectors started "inspecting" Saddam flatly denied having the weapons. All the way up to the invasion he denied having the weapons. This administration told us vehemently that he had the weapons and based the invasion on this information. With all that "serious" talk of WMD's, I just would have thought they could have come up with some real evidence. I don't feel any better knowing they might have had them but we can't find them.

 

The thing that bothers me is we seem to base our intelligence on someone elses intelligence which doesn't seem to have been very good in the first place.We should have had first hand knowledge of the facts to begin with.If we would have done that,we might have been able to approach it differently.

 

Where did I ever say I would condone planting anything?? Dont put words in my mouth. I think its a testiment to G.W.'s honesty that it hasnt been done. I said that according to David Kay, it appears that Saddams own intel and military people deliberately made it look like they had and were hiding wmd. They didnt do it to bluff the U.S., they did it to trick Saddam because they had been stealing all the money he had appropriated for the wmd programs instead of building weapons. Saddam did believe he had wmd , he believed they were being hidden from inspectors, and he did order their usage during our offensive. My point is that if the big sharade actually had Saddam believing he had wmd, why shouldnt everyone believed it? Our intel. services were decimated under the Klinton admin. so we had no choice but to use other countries services. You are just so polarized towards the left and against G.W. that all the proof in the world wouldnt change your mind anyway. Regardless of the evidence or proof you will always claim that everything done by our president is some sort of conspiracy.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Waxy

 

Here's a couple links that took 5 seconds to find, I'll look around for a few more as I know MSN won't cut it here.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4067144/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4067144/

Either I was making a pretty accurate statement, or this is all a big liberal plot to take down Bush.

I haven't read anywhere about Saddam not being aware that the weapons were disposed of, in fact, it seems quite the opposite is true.

Waxy

 

Here's the story from the most trustworthy source of all.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109701,00.html

Waxy

 

If they are to be found, they will be found in late summer

 

I never said anything about how I felt about the outcome because the outcome is still unclear, besides the obvious factor of no more Saddam. I stand by the President and his administration ?fs decision to remove Saddam. I still would have agreed with him even if there was no mention of WMD ?es the regime of Saddam has been a thorn in the side of the world not just America for many a year. The inhumane treatment of his people and those that opposed him is justification enough for me. And I know what some of you are thinking why didn ?ft a previous president do something about it. well to you I say that you have to consider all the factors WORLD WIDE not just in America. the political climate, and the world attitude etc.

Signed,
The Don

PS. I agree that our information needs to be as accurate as possible and chances are it was in fact accurate?cthat there were no FIRM evidence of WMD ?fs in Iraq but a possible future threat was present. And to make the American people go along with it was stated that there were WMD ?fs there now. Because the American people will never care about the future because the future isn ?ft doing anything to hinder their daily lives now.

 

I'm interested what makes you say that time frame?

Signed,
The Don

 

I'm guessing it has something to do with a November election.

 

Two I will not say!
One is, the way they are searching it is changing as you read this.
One is, who is in charge of searching.
One is, the manpower behind the search.
One is, the technology beings utilized for the search.
One is, the methodology in witch we gain information about Syria

and ten more

 

Absolutely not

 

Waxy,

In response to this post by Cartwright:

According to the Kay report, Saddam himself *thought* he had wmd. Kay reports that Saddam had in fact ordered and funded the continuance of Iraqs wmd programs, and ordered their use during both desert storm and the current war but it turns out his own scientists and military were stealing the money for themselves. So it seems to me that if Saddam believed he had the weapons, it was reasonable that everyone else including W thought he had them. I think if W outright lied about it, we would have planted some stuff over there by now.

Your answer was that it was "convoluted thinking", yet your continued response shows a perfect example of what convoluted thinking really sounds like. Interesting enough, I heard a political science professor from Duke say basically the same things yesterday. That:

1) Sadaam was told what he wanted to hear, even though the WMD program was far behind what the (his) intell said.
2) Based upon what intell flowed out of Iraq and informants. EVERYONE was misinformed...a faliure of the intelligence community (not entirely unheard of.)
3) The accusations that Bush pushed forward with some personal vendetta (or other similarily bizarre accusations) just don't stand up under examination. Pres. Bush (or anybody) would not risk political suicide by committing to WAR with faulty information.

Of course, in the world of conspiracy (which liberals need to support much of their thinking), great forces exist in the world of politics and power that permit rich people to do as they please (or some BS like that.)

 

This whole idea that we were all fooled by Iraq that they had WMD's is ludicrous. Gathering reliable data is the responsibility of our intelligence agencies. It's their job, it's why they exist. How many years did we have to substantiate the information? If you're going to accuse somebody of something, it's your responsibility to make sure you're right. This is the largest military operation we've undergone since Desert Storm and it has the shakiest premise. We may not find any WMD's, but we will find out just how costly this will be.