Rebuilt flathead V8
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I don't have a flathead. I have a 54 Yblock. Years ago (1990's) I used it but then did some research.
Most of the experts here say unless you are hauling loads daily or drag racing you don't need to use lead substitute. And of course the additive is not lead.
If your engine has recently been rebuilt I would think it got hardened seats.
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Most of the experts here say unless you are hauling loads daily or drag racing you don't need to use lead substitute. And of course the additive is not lead.
If your engine has recently been rebuilt I would think it got hardened seats.
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Fleet Mechanic
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I’ve seen a lot of people, especially older people recommend using marvel’s mystery oil as an all around alternative to replacing the lubricity that they claim pump gas lacks today. I think running Stabil is probably even more important.
Lead Driver
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No on lead substitutes. Originally designed in the 1920s for it's anti-knock properties, today there are safer ways to raise octane. I've never had issues with 87 regular gas.
I tried it 25 years ago but quit using it after doing some research.
Interesting side note - my dad owned a Sohio franchise around 1959/60. He often mused how gas companies charged more for gas when lead was added (ca. 1923) to it, and then in the 70s charged more for gas to "remove it".
I tried it 25 years ago but quit using it after doing some research.
Interesting side note - my dad owned a Sohio franchise around 1959/60. He often mused how gas companies charged more for gas when lead was added (ca. 1923) to it, and then in the 70s charged more for gas to "remove it".
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It seems the general consensus around here is that for general pleasure driving, needing lead or additives isn't a big deal. It's not likely you're going to drive it enough to ever wear it out cruising to Dairy Queen on Saturday nights. If your plan is to work it hard or go on a cross-country trip, that's another matter and it may be better to add hardened seats rather than trust some snake oil additive to protect you. But as they say, your mileage may vary. Welcome to the forum!
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'51 and later flatheads didn't all have hardened seats. You might be able to tell by looking thru a spark plug hole with a borescope.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Monmouth County, NJ
hi Ross. I thought the OP was asking most likely about a rebuilt flathead as it’s in the title of his post? As there probably isn’t any original from the factory flatheads out there still running? We are most likely taking about a rebuilt one and they from what I understand almost invariably have hardened seat valves. However it’s interesting to learn that some came that way from the factory.
Concerning the lead substitute and the reason people use it, doesn’t it go just beyond hardened Seat valves? I thought it was claimed to be a lubricant as well. This is why people recommend using the marvels mystery oil? I have heard read a lot on forums to this effect although I don’t have any experience or opinions. I’m just curious to hear what you and others think.
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Ford stopped the hardened valve seats and introduced rotating valve assemblies. Discussed here with Ford documents: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21747992
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Ford stopped the hardened valve seats and introduced rotating valve assemblies. Discussed here with Ford documents: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21747992
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