Hi all new to the forum. Former Dodge owner (Yikes) Decided on the Ford 6.0 4x4 crew Lariat because of the look/ interior space for the kids and the 6.0 engine for towing(I like chevy but think its the ugliest truck on the road, just an opinion). Wish I would have read here before I bought though, many things to watch for. You guys are scaring me with the early build dates. mine is Jan 03 but so far no problems. I bought it as a lease back (couldn't resist the pymnt) anyway, before I bought I told dealership about the injector issues I had read about. They pulled up the service work for me and this truck had the following done:

31Fcz
31Fcz01
31Fczre
The description says Diesel Engine Repair. They told me that was the injectors. Is that seem correct?

Truck runs Awesome, tons of power. i cant complain yet. It has 12,000 miles on it so its still pretty new.

But I have 2 questions:
1. The fuel gauge seems to register incorrectly..has there been a recal or TSB on this? Slow to show full, and drops off full within 60 miles.

#2. How do you get the time to stay displayed on the cd/radio? I know you can hit the clock button and it switches from the station to the clock, but everytime I shut it off, it defaults to show the radio station, not the time. Drives me nuts, Iknow what station I am on, I need to know the time. Any ideas?

Thanks all.

 

get me your vin and I'll ck for the tsb on fuel gage...also ck clock function...

 

Welcome to the forum. There is a lot of good information here.

I have the same issue with the clock display on my 03. It wasn't that way on any of my previous Ford products. No one at the dealership could figure it out. Maybe emtabmmwill come up with something.

My fuel guage doesn't move off full until I have driven around 170 miles. Then it drops fast! The fuel seems to foam when filling the tank. When a nozzle automaticaly shuts off, you can get another 4 or 5 gallons in the tank, however it takes forever to do it. I do it when I'm towing for the extra driving range. The 170 mile drop from full happens when I have taken the time to really top off the tank.

 

Hope this helps (*___*) means this it what was done...no info on clock, you will need to see the owners manual for more info....


VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
2003 F-SERIES BODY STYLE
F-350 CREW CAB 4X4 ENGINE
6.0L DIESEL DI V8 ENGINE CALIBRATION

WARRANTY START DATE 04/03/2003
BUILD DATE 01/29/2003
SALE MILEAGE 00050

OUTSTANDING FIELD SERVICE ACTIONS (recalls)

03L12 ENGINE EMISSION CONTROL INFORMATION (EECI) LABEL REPLACEMENT

EXTENDED COVERAGES
NO ESP INFORMATION AVAILABLE
REPAIR HISTORY

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10/29/2003 DEALER: Woodridge Ford Lincoln Ltd
WARRANTY CLAIM NUMBER: 536992 ODOMETER: 018646K
PART NUMBER PART DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
LABOR OP
CONDITION CODE
CONDITION DESC
3C3Z 9F838EA SENSR ASY F/I TIMING 001 03B05B

* REPLACE ICP SENSOR. *

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10/29/2003 DEALER: Woodridge Ford Lincoln Ltd
WARRANTY CLAIM NUMBER: 536993 ODOMETER: 018646K
PART NUMBER PART DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
LABOR OP
CONDITION CODE
CONDITION DESC
E8TZ 4676B SEAL ASY-DRIVE PINIO 001 4602A6 D8 FAILED GASKET/SEAL

* REPLACE REAR DIFF; PINIONSEAL (WARR) RECHECK *

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10/29/2003 DEALER: Woodridge Ford Lincoln Ltd
WARRANTY CLAIM NUMBER: 536992 ODOMETER: 018646K
PART NUMBER PART DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
LABOR OP
CONDITION CODE
CONDITION DESC
000 03B06B

* RE-CALIBRATE PCM, FICM AND TCM. 3U7A-12A650-FTA. *
(this means it has the newest Oct. update)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

03/19/2003 DEALER: Keystone Ford Sales Limited
WARRANTY CLAIM NUMBER: 037777 ODOMETER: 000008K
PART NUMBER PART DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
LABOR OP
CONDITION CODE
CONDITION DESC
3C3Z 9F838 DA SENSR ASY F/I TIMING 001 MT9F838 42 DOES NOT OPERATE PRO

* PERF TESTS REPROGRAM PCM REPLACE ICP RETEST - OK *

SYMPTOM CODE INFORMATION
204000 - ELECTRICAL INSTRUMENTATION

SPECIAL SERVICE MESSAGES
17316
FUEL INDICATION CONCERNS - FUEL SIGNAL TO INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - SERVICE TIP
SOME 2000-2004 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES, EXCURSION, EXPEDITION/NAVIGATOR, AVIATOR, ESCAPE, BLACKWOOD, EXPLORER/MOUNTAINEER AND F-150'S EQUIPPED WITH 5.4L, 6.0L AND 6.8L ENGINES MAY HAVE FUEL INDICATION CONCERNS. TO CHECK THE FUEL SIGNAL TO THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER WHEN INVESTIGATING FUEL INDICATION COMPLAINTS, USE AN NGS. PULL UP THE FUELLVL PID IN THE HEC DIAGNOSTICS SECTION (GREEN CARD). THE PID READINGS ARE IN PERCENT OF TANK FULL, SO 50% SHOULD HAVE A FUEL GAGE INDICATION OF ABOUT 1/2 TANK. THE PID VALUE RESPONDS INSTANTLY TO FUEL SLOSH AND VEHICLE TILT, BUT THE FUEL GAGE RESPONDS MORE SLOWLY TO COMPENSATE FOR SLOSH. THE GAGE MAY TAKE UP TO 20 MINUTES WITH KEY ON TO MATCH A STABLE FUEL INPUT SIGNAL. IF IT DOES, THE FUEL INDICATION SYSTEM IS OK. IF THE PID VALUE IS '000' THE CLUSTER IS NOT RECEIVING A VALID FUEL SIGNAL FROM THE TANK.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

17076
2003-2004 SUPER DUTY/EXCURSION 6.0L - WATER IN FUEL LIGHT ILLUMINATED
SOME 2003-2004 SUPER DUTY/EXCURSION VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 6.0L POWERSTROKE MAY EXHIBIT A WATER IN FUEL (WIF) LIGHT ON, WHICH DOES NOT TURN OFF AFTER WATER HAS BEEN DRAINED FROM THE HORIZONTAL FUEL CONDITIONING MODULE (HFCM). THIS MAY BE DUE TO CORROSION/SEDIMENT BUILD UP IN THE WATER RESERVOIR. TO SERVICE, FIRST VERIFY ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS. IF ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS ARE OKAY, REMOVE THE FUEL MANIFOLD FROM THE HFCM. INSPECT/CLEAN DEBRIS (MAX 25 PSI AIR) FROM THE WATER RESERVOIR IN HFCM HOUSING. INSTALL NEW FUEL MANIFOLD PN 3C3Z-9B249-AB AND REASSEMBLE THE FUEL MANIFOLD TO THE HFCM. REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL SECTION 310-01 FOR HFCM DISASSEMBLY AND ASSEMBLY PROCEDURES.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16820 2003 F-SERIES SUPER DUTY AND EXCURSION BUILT BETWEEN 12/1/2002 AND 4/14/2003 - FUEL INDICATION MAY BE LESS THAN ACTUAL
SOME 2003 F-SERIES SUPER DUTY AND EXCURSION BUILT BETWEEN 12/1/2002 AND 4/14/2003 MAY EXHIBIT AN INACCURATE FUEL GAGE READING AFTER REFUELING. REFUELING WITH THE IGNITION KEY IN ACCESSORY MODE IS MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN A LOWER THAN ACTUAL FUEL GAGE READING. IF THE READING IS SUSPECTED TO BE INACCURATE, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY (GAS) OR BATTERIES (DIESEL) AND RECONNECT TO REINITIALIZE THE FUEL LEVEL MEMORY IN THE CLUSTER. NO REPAIR IS NECESSARY IF THE FUEL GAGE CHANGES TO THE CORRECT READING. NOTE, THE FUEL GAGE SHOULD EVENTUALLY REACH THE CORRECT READING WITHOUT REINITIALIZING. REPLACING THE CLUSTER AND/OR THE SENDER WILL NOT FIX NOR IMPROVE THIS CONDITION. IF AN INACCURATE READING PERSISTS REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL INSTRUMENT CLUSTER PINPOINT TEST 'B' AND FOLLOW NORMAL DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURES.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

END OF OASIS REPORT

 

p.s. get us some picks of your new ride!! eh!!!

and welcome to the site, this is a great place!!!!

 

gotv10
Try an dshut the truck down and fire it back on I think it resets the guage.

 

Thanks for the info emtabmm Its good to know whats been done. Looks like I was flashed and didn't even know it (till now)

Anyway, I guess the fuel gauge is something I will have to get used to, as it appears they looked into it already.

I read the manual, but nothing in their RE: the radio..Would like to fix that issue.

Once again, Thanks for the info. Much appreciated

Cheers


PS I think Santa is bringing a digi cam this x-mas so I will snap a pic or two then

 

My gauge does the same thing. I just found out though that I wasn't totally filling the tank...if I continue slowly, after the pump auto shut off, I can get another 5 gallons into it until it comes up to the neck. I typically was getting about 50-60 miles before the needle would drop below the full line. With the additional 5 gallons it should be at least 125 miles. There is another thread on this site that talks a little about the filling capacity after auto shut off... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=175765 ...I don't know if it's a problem, if there's a fix, or if it's just the nature of the beast.

I don't know what to tell you about the clock, mine did the same thing, but I don't remember exactly what I did to change it. I think I held down the clock button for 2 seconds, and after that it now only shows the station frequency for a few seconds then goes back to the clock. I have the premium sound single cd/cassette and don't see anything in the manual about enabling/disabling the clock display.

 

JimDiesel

RE: Gauge. I have been reading alot about it on this forum. I will try and spend a bit more time topping off the tank as I did only give it a couple extra shots after the autoshut off kicked in. I think the "foaming" everyone has talked about with diesel fuel is maybe causing me to not fill the tank totally. I have found though that it rides between 1/4 and 1/2 for a long time. I know on our expedition it takes forever to come off full but once it does it drops fast. So maybe this is the opposite.

RE: Radio. YAHOO! That means there is a way to fix it...Question is how? I tried holding the clock button down and it didnt help. I have the same radio as you. I think I have hit every combination of buttons on that thing. Wife thinks I am crazy.

If you remember how you did it, please post.

Thanks

 

One more note on the gauge, I could typically go 100 miles by the 1/4 and 200 by the 1/2, I try not to let it go below a half tank. I thought the same as you, maybe it starts fast and then goes slower...I was quite surprised to see 5 more gallons bringing it up to the neck, it does take another 3-5 minutes to do that though.

I'll see if I can get the clock back to the other mode, then I have to try to get it back to current...if I can I'll let you know. No, your not crazy, yet...a few more months of that clock though and you'll be on the edge, it was driving me crazy after just 30 minutes!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim Diesel

"With the additional 5 gallons it should be at least 125 miles"

They get between 17 to 18.5 per gallon averge just reading the other treads and mine befor they Flashed it, I could get 20 by being nice to it and not go over 65. Drive like there is an egg between your foot and the pedal.

Rob

PS, New Truck being made Monday 12/15 just in time for two week shut down at Ford

 

Jim Diesel

Be Careful..I dont want to be the one responsible for you not being able to get the clock back again. Then we are both in the same boat

 

Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who want to yank the radio out and smash it on the ground I've tried the manual and all different button combos to no avail. There is supposedly a fix for the tank to make it fill that last 4-5 gallons as fast as the rest of the tank it's called harpooning the tank or pooning for short a guy whose call name is harpoon over at the diesel stop found out that if you drop the tank remove the fuel pump and cut the vent line inside the tank as short as you can it allows the tank to vent faster with out all of the foaming I'm going to try this if I can remember to not fill up when it reaches 1/2 tank habbits die hard I think as soon as I save up some money the stereo is getting replaced with with a mach 1000 out of a mustang that is mp-3 compatible, buy the way have I told you guy that clock thing drives me nuts what idiot engineer came up with that limited display feature? all come down to saving a few pennies I guess.

 

Andy... can you do some research on this clock issue...maybe there is a service bulletin on it.
I would think most people would not complain to the dealers over this for fear of being labeled too damn pickyand whiney

It is driving me crazy too.
clock goes back to station when you adjust volume, bass, trebble or when you spit out of the window.
Glad to see im not alone in this aggravation

 

I'll keep looking but it seems that ford engineers did not like the clock displayed all the time...