Notices

E4od Frankenstein

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 7, 2024 | 08:32 AM
  #1  
ElectricRam's Avatar
ElectricRam
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
E4od Frankenstein

Hello fellow Fordies,
I recently bought a 1996 f250 7.3 powerstroke. It had some shifting issues when I bought it. After getting it home I decided to do a rebuild on it. The input shaft twisted into the O.D. planet (now its a cool looking boat anchor) the O.D. planet is from a 93 or older( steel, 4 gear, 1 7/8" hub) all my pistons have lip seals ( which is 95 and after) and the casting number on the case is from 1990. I am trying to figure out which input shaft and O.D. planet I should replace with. And by the way this is my first trans rebuild, what a monster to pop the cherr....... If any of you pros know what parts or any tolerances I should look to stay in I sure could use some help. Thanks
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2024 | 10:58 AM
  #2  
1Butcher's Avatar
1Butcher
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 1,033
Automatics are fairly easy to reseal, but many people are scared of them. I did my first E4OD last year and I started with a 95 transmission. I used steel gearsets from other transmissions. The OD gearset is a 4 planet and the other two are 6 gear planets. I put in additional clutches in all the clutch packs. I had to do some additional machining of one of the coast drum to get one more clutch in it.

I posted a thread of my butchery.

There are plenty of E4OD videos and people really like the transmission bench videos. All I got to say is he is very boring. Might be good if you never looked inside an automatic transmission. I can't see you making a mistake if you follow his video.

I prefer Marshall Sanders videos. He tends to explain things a lot. Some people get lost on what he is saying. If that is the case, it's because he is talking over your head. It's you, not him. I like his approach because I want to know why certain things happen when they do. The transmission bench just says to take this part out and install this part back. No explanation why.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ0...=dd&shelf_id=0

I spent a good 3-6 months researching before I purchased a core transmission and rebuilding it. I did install all new wear parts. That includes bushing/bearings, clutches, discs, etc.

If you search hard enough, you will not need to buy any manual. They are all on the internet for free downloads. Update manuals too.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2024 | 11:14 AM
  #3  
ElectricRam's Avatar
ElectricRam
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Thanks for the reply 1butcher! I have never been in a AT before. I did order a service manual, should be delivered today. Transmission bench gave me enough confidence to open my first, but it is just step by step replacement. What I have is different parts from different years but you're telling me that is OK? Because checking the what ever it takes catalog different years parts have different dimensions end to end. Example: up to 93 o.d. planet had a hub length of 1 7/8 and after hub length of 1 7/16 both steel 4 gear and 2 different input shaft length year not specified. Wouldn't different length affect how it all fits? I am just a sparky, but that seems a pretty big difference. Or does that not matter because of some variable I am not seeing? I will watch the video link you sent because I like to understand things I work on not just parts swap. Thanks again!
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2024 | 11:27 AM
  #4  
1Butcher's Avatar
1Butcher
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 1,033
I'm not saying anything will fit together. One thing for certain, if you do not know what you are doing, you will not know what to look for. I certainly would not trust anything that someone would post.

I spent a lot of time looking, understanding, researching, and after the months of doing that, I felt comfortable about taking this core transmission apart, installing different parts, looking at those parts to confirm they would bolt up and more importantly work. I measured and remeasured. I confirmed that gearsets and clutches were moving freely. Most of this experience is from repairing other automatic transmissions. The school of hard knocks is expensive but you will not have a better teacher. Researching till you think you can teach the class allows the school of hard knocks to be a bit easier.

I am not the person to ask about what will/will not work. There are many more people that know these transmissions and can probably ID any part with a bind fold. I cannot. There are two update manuals that Ford made. Both are online for free. I would find them and download them. One is for the E4OD and the other one is for the 4R100. They are the same transmission but different.

You are new to this, we all start where you are. The only way out is to find the answers and that takes time. I tend not to ask questions until I have exhausted all avenues. The transmission is old and there are plenty of sites that explain things better than I. Not many share their upgrade secrets. I guess I would be the same way. Marshall shares the well known tricks. When I started my thread a year ago, I did share how many clutches I was able to add and what I did to get them to fit. I only went with the thinner discs in one clutch pack. I can't remember which one.

I just got a Kenne-Bell supercharged 351W and I use the truck 95% of the time towing. I am building a 408 and swapping out a larger supercharger. That is the purpose of overbuilding my transmission. I'm not certain how much this transmission will hold, but I suspect it will not be the weak link.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2024 | 12:22 PM
  #5  
ElectricRam's Avatar
ElectricRam
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2024
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
I just watched the video link you sent, that guy lays it out straight, rambles a little, but wow he know his S. I watched his vid on e4od upgrades and know it all makes sense. Some one before me did most of the upgrades already which is why I have different year parts. I thought some one just threw what was laying around in the case. I feel much more confident in the parts I need to order now. Thanks again 1butcher for pointing me in the right direction. I will post updates as I finish the build and test drive. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bllslggr
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
0
Sep 30, 2023 07:44 PM
Deadsquiggles
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
19
Jun 28, 2019 07:10 PM
71cc
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
1
Apr 28, 2012 09:17 PM
hivoltj
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Apr 13, 2012 12:37 PM
Mustangfreak
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
2
Feb 17, 2009 08:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:04 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE