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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Fox-BLUE1
I’m sure it will let you add it, but it will come in the form of this new stick on keypad that the dealer will throw on. I’ve seen a Reddit thread where Maverick owners are annoyed that this is the new standard keypad. One guy/gal pulled it off the door and put it on the bed so it wasn’t so obvious. Just stuck on with 3M tape.


This stick-on solution is so 2000's (I have one on my 2000 F350)
 
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Old Oct 4, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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I am a little disapponted, I was actually thinking of ordering a 2025 F-350 XLT Super-cab short bed 7.3L 4X4. A truck like that would fit my needs and I like the fact that it would have been fairly unique. It is true that extended car full size trucks have been slipping in populatity, GM and Ram versions are just short crew-cabs now. I heard that GM actually sells more regular cab HD's than extended cabs these days. Fleets still buy a lot of regular cabs, but personal use buyers all want full crew cabs.

 
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Old Oct 4, 2024 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lcseds
Most buyers walk in and buy. They don't know what has changed from previous years. They buy what's on the lot and what it came with. And they are happy. Very few people follow model year changes outside of websites like this.

NAILED IT!

Majority of F150 buyers that plan to tow an RV have no clue what they are buying either. They buy the blingiest one only to find out it has trouble towing their trailer because its overloaded. Most don't know the difference between XL and a lariat until they sit in one. The ones who buy a limited, because of the name thinking its a very special edition, but in reality, no, just the most expensive one.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2024 | 02:21 PM
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Built a Lariat for kicks. Now the power steps are part of the Ultimate package. If you get them then you gotta buy the other step to get in the bed. My '20 Lariat has the extended running boards that extend back towards the bed. I prefer that........ Thanks for nothing Ford......... As others say I reckon I will be keeping this one for a long time.......
 
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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 02:53 PM
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I do not like the elimination of the Supercab at the Lariat trim level. Makes no sense whatsoever.

So I went online and built an XLT, noticing no wheel options other than the 18" wheel offered.

But, if you build an XL online, you have multiple options, including 18" and 20" options.

Makes no sense how you have more options for wheel choices on the XL and only 1 for the XLT. Anyone know if different wheels could be ordered for the XLT when the dealer places the order?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
I do not like the elimination of the Supercab at the Lariat trim level. Makes no sense whatsoever.

So I went online and built an XLT, noticing no wheel options other than the 18" wheel offered.

But, if you build an XL online, you have multiple options, including 18" and 20" options.

Makes no sense how you have more options for wheel choices on the XL and only 1 for the XLT. Anyone know if different wheels could be ordered for the XLT when the dealer places the order?
I think it may depend on what cab you get. On the Crew Cabs you can get the Tremor wheels or the Black Appearance Package wheels.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 07:01 PM
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I actually love my 23, one year color (Azure Gray). Was thinking of getting Limited 24 in Glacial Grey, but nah. My Lariat Ultimate is all I need.

2025 and on…Ford better change their ways or I this will be my last SD.

I am NOT paying more for less. Have been driving SD’s since 1999 (5 I believe over 800,000 miles), this is a first from Ford that I have seen in all my SD years.

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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by srkr
I actually love my 23, one year color (Azure Gray). Was thinking of getting Limited 24 in Glacial Grey, but nah. My Lariat Ultimate is all I need.

2025 and on…Ford better change their ways or I this will be my last SD.

I am NOT paying more for less. Have been driving SD’s since 1999 (5 I believe over 800,000 miles), this is a first from Ford that I have seen in all my SD years.

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Same, when my 22 SC Lariat is due for replacement I will just shop the best deal from all 3 manufacturers rather than go straight to Ford if I have to buy a Crew Cab.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 08:28 AM
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53 posts about the changes for 2025 SDs and (CORRECTION) *only one* mention that the smaller 10R100 transmission is going to be used on all non-Tremor 7.3 F-250s for 2025s.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford8502
You can upgrade to the 7.3 as an option as said, but F250's will only get the lighter G transmission even with the 7.3.
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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I am glad they are switching out the "Dummy Hub" back to the way it has been for the longest time. I have checked out 3 - 2025 models and this is a good thing to see.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZZILLA
53 posts about the changes for 2025 SDs and (CORRECTION) *only one* mention that the smaller 10R100 transmission is going to be used on all non-Tremor 7.3 F-250s for 2025s.
10R140 is overkill for most gas engine trucks, even with the 7.3L. I think the 10R100 is a better transmission anyway.....

The ultimate combination was the 7.3L/6R140, but that was only available in the 650/750 and some E series and F53 models.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
10R140 is overkill for most gas engine trucks, even with the 7.3L. I think the 10R100 is a better transmission anyway.....

The ultimate combination was the 7.3L/6R140, but that was only available in the 650/750 and some E series and F53 models.
So why does Ford still make it standard on F-250 gas Tremors and all 7.3 gas F-350s? And GM’s version of the 10R140, the 10L100 standard on their 6.6 gas HDs?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:21 PM
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Beats me, probably cost. The 10R100 seems a lot smoother behind a gas engine to me anyway. The 10R100 is a heavy duty version of the Ford 10R80/GM 10L80 joint venture 10 speed, so it isn't exactly the same transmission used in Ford and GM half tons. GM does now used the 10L1000 'Allison' transmission in all their gas HD trucks. Funny thing, and I have seen them apart, that transmission isn't the same as the 10R140 even though a lot of people think it is. It workes the same way in (4 planets, 4 clutches, 2 brakes) etc, but many components are arranged differently. The gear ratios of the GM 10L100 and Ford 10R140 transmission are different too. Some parts of the 10R140 are larger than the same parts in the 10L1000 and I think the Ford transmission weighs more. For whatever reason (and I think programming has a lot to do with it) GM seems to be having fewer issues with the 10L1000 than Ford does with the 10R140.


The 2025 Ram's Cummins/ZF Powerline 8 speed is going to be a hard combination to beat for reliability.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
Beats me, probably cost. The 10R100 seems a lot smoother behind a gas engine to me anyway. The 10R100 is a heavy duty version of the Ford 10R80/GM 10L80 joint venture 10 speed, so it isn't exactly the same transmission used in Ford and GM half tons. GM does now used the 10L1000 'Allison' transmission in all their gas HD trucks. Funny thing, and I have seen them apart, that transmission isn't the same as the 10R140 even though a lot of people think it is. It workes the same way in (4 planets, 4 clutches, 2 brakes) etc, but many components are arranged differently. The gear ratios of the GM 10L100 and Ford 10R140 transmission are different too. Some parts of the 10R140 are larger than the same parts in the 10L1000 and I think the Ford transmission weighs more. For whatever reason (and I think programming has a lot to do with it) GM seems to be having fewer issues with the 10L1000 than Ford does with the 10R140.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUmxJ-6pRpk&t=76s

The 2025 Ram's Cummins/ZF Powerline 8 speed is going to be a hard combination to beat for reliability.
Given the choice I’d rather have a 10R140 than a 10R100. Also I’d rather have a 2020-2022 Dana M256 than the smaller 2023-present M235 front axle. I don’t care if I don’t need a 445ci 7.3L engine, massive 10R140 transmission and a larger M256 front axle, I just want them.
 
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