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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 11:54 AM
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DC-DC Charger

I have a 2023 F250 with a 290a alternator. I’d like to charge my camper lithium batteries while I travel. I was told that 2015+ Fords have smart alternators so I don’t need a DC-DC charger, but I’m skeptical. Do I need one? Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 12:02 PM
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If you just need a trickle charge, you'll be fine with the factory plug. If you want to charge and more than a couple of amps, you'll definitely need a DC-DC charger and some heavy duty wire and connectors.

I put in an Anderson SB120 connector in the truck bed, with 4 gauge wire, connected and fused at the battery. Even that is only good for ~50 amps.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:17 PM
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In order to charge your lithium batteries from your truck, you definitely should get a DC-DC charger. Victron just released a new version of their Orion DC-DC charger which is higher amperage, smaller, more efficient, and less problems with overheating than the prior version. https://www.victronenergy.com/dc-dc-...attery-charger
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:17 PM
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All that the "Smart" alternator does is vary the charge voltage automatically to whatever type battery is being charged.
It won't give you much for your camper/trailer as the wiring gauge is to small to carry any meaningful current to adequately charge a remote battery bank.
DC-DC charger will accomplish this but you need a seperate set of wires from your truck battery to the DC-DC charger that you would mount as close as possible to your remote site.
You will need to calculate "voltage drop" to size your wiring correctly. Dont forget DC requires a total overall length out and back.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:37 PM
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Thank you for all your excellent input! Now, I won’t be doing this myself, who or what kind of shop should I take it to?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by greenno
You will need to calculate "voltage drop" to size your wiring correctly. Dont forget DC requires a total overall length out and back.
I wish I had gone with a larger wire. 4awg is acceptable according to the Victron manual. I was worried about going to something like 2awg, but honestly it wouldn't have been too much more difficult to run.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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What kind of system are installing in the camper? What size system? Any solar? You may want to confirm you even need to charge from the truck.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:47 PM
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What kind of system are installing in the camper? What size system? Any solar? You may want to confirm you even need to charge from the truck.
I have 2each 270ahr LiFePo batteries and 800W solar on the roof. I also have a 2500W portable generator, but I obviously can’t use that while traveling.

I want to make sure I get fully charged while traveling during rainy or cloudy days. I had a bad experience last fall that I want to avoid in the future.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:52 PM
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Got it. I'm not sure who could install it, but it was about $150 in parts for the truck and I installed it in a couple of hours (I'm slow and take my time).

I had to buy: wire, fuse holder on battery terminal, anderson connectors, anderson terminals, lug connectors, wire loom, mounting screws.

When I get my camper, it should be pretty quick to install the other side (anderson connector, wires, charger).
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wltrmtty
Thank you for all your excellent input! Now, I won’t be doing this myself, who or what kind of shop should I take it to?
Your best bet is an RV solar installer. Here in Oregon, a good option is MYT Solar. They provide mobile RV electrical installs all across the Pacific Northwest.

I don't know how much DIY you like to do, but in the realm of DIY projects, adding a DC-DC charger isn't the most challenging to do yourself. Here is a really nice blog post by Matt of Adventurous Way describing in detail how he did this type of project himself.
 
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Originally Posted by ytechie
I wish I had gone with a larger wire. 4awg is acceptable according to the Victron manual. I was worried about going to something like 2awg, but honestly it wouldn't have been too much more difficult to run.
I agree. 2awg is a better choice than 4awg for this application.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Avoozl
I don't know how much DIY you like to do, but in the realm of DIY projects, adding a DC-DC charger isn't the most challenging to do yourself. Here is a really nice blog post by Matt of Adventurous Way describing in detail how he did this type of project himself.
Great blog post! Thanks! I’ve book marked it. Thank you!
 
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I did this on my 2020 F350 7.3, dual alternator truck. It worked great keeping my batteries charged. I'm sure I'll do it to my 2024 F350 when I get it.

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I did this on my 2020 F350 7.3, dual alternator truck. It worked great keeping my batteries charged. I'm sure I'll do it to my 2024 F350 when I get it.

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I don’t have dual alternator, would that be an issue?
 
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My truck had the 410 amp dual alternator and battery option. My 2024 is getting a 250 amp single alternator.
 
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