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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 10:40 AM
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Very nice, clean install; good job. A max of about 45A is what I have seen from my twin 30's on #4 wire (all depends on how much current the batteries want), so that is a good upgrade.

Why would you need to connect to your DC-DC units if the truck is not in the loop? There are just sitting there idle.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by scottz99
Very nice, clean install; good job. A max of about 45A is what I have seen from my twin 30's on #4 wire (all depends on how much current the batteries want), so that is a good upgrade.

Why would you need to connect to your DC-DC units if the truck is not in the loop? There are just sitting there idle.
The max input for this one is 50A.

It's nice to be able to adjust parameters, update the unit, etc. without having to drive the truck down the hill to the trailer and connecting it.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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That makes sense, thanks.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 12:13 PM
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I really like the backboard you made for the Victron eq. Is that some kind of metal in a frame? My stuff is mounted directly on the wall; not really comfortable with that.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 01:38 PM
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I really like the backboard you made for the Victron eq. Is that some kind of metal in a frame? My stuff is mounted directly on the wall; not really comfortable with that.
It's 1/8" thick perforated aluminum sheet with 1/4" holes.

The sheet is mounted to 1"x1" aluminum extrusion with bolts/T-nuts and the extrusion is screwed to the trailer chassis.

 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tundra
It's 1/8" thick perforated aluminum sheet with 1/4" holes.

The sheet is mounted to 1"x1" aluminum extrusion with bolts/T-nuts and the extrusion is screwed to the trailer chassis.
Thanks for the specs on the perforated sheet. I see you used an offset pattern. Did you have any issues lining up the holes of the components? I like what you did there and was thinking of using a straight pattern. I may mount the inverter on the sheet. I suppose 1/8" sheet would support that as long as there's enough extrusion behind it.

What do you think of the Lynx components? They seem to take up a lot of space, but within that same space it accounts for both positive and negative cables.

In case I didn't say it already, that's a very professional looking build.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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Larger AWG for the win

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I wish I had gone with a larger wire. 4awg is acceptable according to the Victron manual. I was worried about going to something like 2awg, but honestly it wouldn't have been too much more difficult to run.
It is also important to keep in mind those recommended gauge sizes are for something like 72 F. If you are going to be in high temp. environments you want an even bigger wire AWG.
Where I roam in the UT desert, temps can easily reach over 110 F and the metal sitting in the sun prob gets close to 160 F - 180F or higher. I have a LiTime DC-DC charger with 60 Amp capacity. I used 2 AWG to run from engine compartment to pickup bed where my Lithium batteries are located.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
Thanks for the specs on the perforated sheet. I see you used an offset pattern. Did you have any issues lining up the holes of the components? I like what you did there and was thinking of using a straight pattern. I may mount the inverter on the sheet. I suppose 1/8" sheet would support that as long as there's enough extrusion behind it.

What do you think of the Lynx components? They seem to take up a lot of space, but within that same space it accounts for both positive and negative cables.

In case I didn't say it already, that's a very professional looking build.
Everything worked out for me with the offset holes, I believe I ended up having to drill maybe two holes for the disconnect switch.

I agree, the Lynx components seem to take up a lot of space. I converted my distributor to a Power In basically, I added mega fuses inside.


 
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tundra
Everything worked out for me with the offset holes, I believe I ended up having to drill maybe two holes for the disconnect switch.

I agree, the Lynx components seem to take up a lot of space. I converted my distributor to a Power In basically, I added mega fuses inside.
Beautiful installation. May I ask where you found the blue cable tray?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by B-ManFX4
Beautiful installation. May I ask where you found the blue cable tray?
https://www.panduit.com/en/products/...ding&f:@color=[Intrinsic%20Blue]

https://www.cooper-electric.com/prod...t-corp-f3x3ib6
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:01 PM
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charging flooded deep cycle

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Yeah, I missed the 20% but my statement still stands. At the time of his issue, he only had 270ah, now he has twice that. But this is also about amp hour management, and management of expectations... knowing the system and its charging efficiency so you're not left in the "dark." When his solar isn't operating at peak (cloudy/rain), then his generator comes into play. Running down your batteries to a low SOC, then expecting whatever charge from the truck alternator to fully charge your trailer batteries isn't normally realistic, especially during a relatively short trip. Even if a fella is getting 50a of charge, as you mentioned, to charge the 540ah battery bank that's at 20% SOC will still need over 8 hours of charging time (again, assuming the alt survives). Not a situation I would call reliable and outside of a cross-country trip of many hours, it's not always reasonable to expect your truck to fully replenish your RV batteries from a low SOC at any realistic charging rate.

I've never advocated for the OP to get an 18amp charger, or that he sets up his system the way I have mine. I merely shared my experience and advocated that he does need a DC-DC charger of some kind. I also shared that at least on my truck (the longest configuration), it's possible to get adequate voltage at the 7-pin at the truck bumper, which might save him some money and time. All the warnings about voltage drop at the bumper have not proven true on my truck, and I've had no issues keeping my lithiums topped off with my measly little 18a DC-DC charger and power from the 7-pin. But I built my system to accommodate my needs. I think the OP needs to investigate ALL the possibilities and then make his decision. He needs to build his system according to his needs, and wire it according to those needs and what's comfortable for him. If that's coming off the bumper, fine. If that's coming off the truck battery, also fine. Doesn't matter to me.
Hi everyone. Getting in on this thread way late and appreciate all the good info. I have a TT and a work trailer so want to mount the DC to DC charge on the tow vehicle. Both trailers have flooded deep cycle batteries. I understand flooded batteries don't necessarily need DC to DC charger but when using a smart alternator it is recommended. Any thoughts on this? I am very interested in how you're getting enough amps thru the OEM 7 pin.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BradinAZ
Hi everyone. Getting in on this thread way late and appreciate all the good info. I have a TT and a work trailer so want to mount the DC to DC charge on the tow vehicle. Both trailers have flooded deep cycle batteries. I understand flooded batteries don't necessarily need DC to DC charger but when using a smart alternator it is recommended. Any thoughts on this? I am very interested in how you're getting enough amps thru the OEM 7 pin.
If you want to charge your batteries quickly, you want a DC to DC charger, regardless of type. Very little current goes through the 7-way plug. Every vehicle younger than 20 years old has a smart alternator, FYI, according to my mechanic buddy.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:12 PM
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I wouldn't bother using a DC-DC charger for flooded lead acid batteries. Through the 7-pin you're going to get no more than 30 amps, per the fuse. Reality is that the amps will be much lower, in the 10 to 15 range. RCSB has a shorter run of wire, so should - in theory - have better results. CCLB is going to be less.

If you want more current into your trailer batteries you'll need to run much heavier dedicated cable from the engine compartment to the rear of the truck and from there to the trailer battery or DC-DC charger.

General recommendation is to put the DC-DC charger as close to the battery as possible. Not all DC-DC chargers are rated for weather.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2025 | 11:15 AM
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Can someone help me with wiring the Orion xs 50 to my upfitter switches?
Can I simply run a wire from the Orion to an upfitter and control the Orion with the switch?
What gauge wire do I use?
Which port on the Orion do I plug into (remote L or H)?
My plan is to run 2awg from truck battery to an Anderson 175 connector in box, then mate that to an Anderson 4awg 175 connector in my camper with wire to the Orion.

One other question I had is - would it be best to run positive wire to one truck battery and the negative wire to the second truck battery seeing as they are setup in parallel? Would that distribute the load across both batteries better or not necessary?
Thanks!
 
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