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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 11:45 AM
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Help identifying this rod

Found this rod loose in our oil pan (when we removed it to clean) - 1970 F100 390 FE manual transmission. Any ideas what it is, where it came from and do we need it?


 
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 11:50 AM
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That is the oil pump drive shaft. Top end is driven by the distributor and the bottom end goes into the pump. They have a tendency to lift out if stuck to the distributor and they end up in the pan, It could be that this happened in the past and they put a new drive in. If the distributor is removed, look down and see if you can see a new shaft - or pull the pump and ensure that the pump shaft is installed. The consequences of no shaft are dramatic and swift.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 12:24 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, the circular flange on that shaft should be up against the BOTTOM surface of the intake manifold so the distributor could be pulled without feat of having the shaft pull out of the oil pump.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Here are some pictures and diagrams - https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog...oping-magnets/

Usually when they fall out, the snap ring will slip as the distributor is pulled up and you'll hear a clink or thud as the driveshaft hits the pan. To install it, the pump is removed. The fact that the snap ring is still on the shaft may indicate that it did indeed slip or that the shaft simply wasn't installed. If you blow up the picture, it sure looks like the ring/stop has slid down the shaft about 3/4". After market shafts will be machined with a groove to minimize the possibility of an unintended pump drive shaft drop.

If a new shaft was installed, it won't have the stop and it will probably drop in the future so it should be replaced.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 08:53 PM
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This is great information and very helpful as we put back together our engine. Thank you!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:19 PM
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Are you in Colorado - wondering from your user name? I'm in Littleton. If you are in the Denver area I can give you a hand if needed. Send a PM if interested
 
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Old Dec 4, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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I'm in Fort Collins. I appreciate the offer. Sure could use the help from time to time, but Littleton is a stretch. My son and I are putting our 390 back into the truck after a rebuild. I'm nervous about the first cold start - making sure all of the fluids are in and primed, electrical is hooked back up properly, etc. Only one way to learn sometimes - just do it .
 
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Old Dec 4, 2023 | 09:10 AM
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As long as you have an oil pump drive in it you should be fine. Prime the oiling system before starting and confirm that you have oil pressure during the prime and immediately after startup. If you get into trouble, you're not that far away that I can't come up to help.
 
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Originally Posted by GPatrick
As long as you have an oil pump drive in it you should be fine. Prime the oiling system before starting and confirm that you have oil pressure during the prime and immediately after startup. If you get into trouble, you're not that far away that I can't come up to help.

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