Should I Flash?
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Appreicate all the info / discussion here. For Andy, any guess as to how many of the flash, injector problems I'll have in my F350 (build date should be week of 1 DEC 2003). Or have all the "bad" injectors been purged from stock and the correct flash identified for a new 6.0??? I'm getting really jumpy....only 2 weeks to delivery (I hope)! Thanks
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Injector ID, hopefully
Originally posted by Tim Lamkin
Andy any way to tell which injectors you have?
Andy any way to tell which injectors you have?
Found this from <!-- Joe Kiess.--> The Diesel Dude I assume it is correct, as he had also given a date on this board, that fairly corresponds to the engine number that was given.
You can tell by engine serial number.
I got this from another board from <!-- Joe Kiess --> The Diesel Dude, who works at Indy. This is the starting engine serial number for 6.0's with the C95 injectors.
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The official number is 6068440 but I checked the computer and there were several engines built between 6068440 and 6068453 that had the C94 injectors. So I would say that the first good engine is 6068453, built 4/11/03.
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I guess that could be checked, just by checking your injectors against the engine serial number. I just squeaked in, as my engine build was 04/15/03 and the engine number was 607XXX, can't remeber exactly, but it is definately later than the reference above.
Tim, unfortunately, it appears that your 3/18 engine build will have the C94 injectors. I suppose that doesn't mean anything, unless you really have problems. Anyway, I still have a chance of having a problem, as the C95, have a 1 in 100 chance of failure, while the C 94's were 1 in 10. Hope yours are from 1 to nine in the series.
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great reading.. i now think i have the injector problem.. i just returned from a 1600 mile trip.. and on the way home it started idling rough.. really rough... will see how it goes today..
but from the above mentioned information.. i have an engine build date of 12/02..... with the c-94 injectors...
i just turned over 7000 miles on it.. and up until last night it was running great.. also seems that my MPG has dropped since this rough idle... was getting just over 18 running about 70mph..
last tank of fuel it dropped to just over 15mpg... this was figured by hand....
thanks guys.. if it continues to run like crap.. ill be in to see the dealer on monday...
but from the above mentioned information.. i have an engine build date of 12/02..... with the c-94 injectors...
i just turned over 7000 miles on it.. and up until last night it was running great.. also seems that my MPG has dropped since this rough idle... was getting just over 18 running about 70mph..
last tank of fuel it dropped to just over 15mpg... this was figured by hand....
thanks guys.. if it continues to run like crap.. ill be in to see the dealer on monday...
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tjinjax, you should not have any problems, just run with it and if you do have a problem then let all of us know...and we can help!!!
Bad injectors are gone as of about Sept 1st or so build date on truck. Engine date about Aug 1st.......
Bad injectors are gone as of about Sept 1st or so build date on truck. Engine date about Aug 1st.......
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Re: Injector ID, hopefully
Originally posted by Lariat
Tim,
Found this from The Diesel Dude. I assume it is correct, as he had also given a date on this board, that fairly corresponds to the engine number that was given.
You can tell by engine serial number.
I got this from another board from Joe Kiess, who works at Indy. This is the starting engine serial number for 6.0's with the C95 injectors.
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The official number is 6068440 but I checked the computer and there were several engines built between 6068440 and 6068453 that had the C94 injectors. So I would say that the first good engine is 6068453, built 4/11/03.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess that could be checked, just by checking your injectors against the engine serial number. I just squeaked in, as my engine build was 04/15/03 and the engine number was 607XXX, can't remeber exactly, but it is definately later than the reference above.
Tim, unfortunately, it appears that your 3/18 engine build will have the C94 injectors. I suppose that doesn't mean anything, unless you really have problems. Anyway, I still have a chance of having a problem, as the C95, have a 1 in 100 chance of failure, while the C 94's were 1 in 10. Hope yours are from 1 to nine in the series.
Lariat
Tim,
Found this from The Diesel Dude. I assume it is correct, as he had also given a date on this board, that fairly corresponds to the engine number that was given.
You can tell by engine serial number.
I got this from another board from Joe Kiess, who works at Indy. This is the starting engine serial number for 6.0's with the C95 injectors.
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The official number is 6068440 but I checked the computer and there were several engines built between 6068440 and 6068453 that had the C94 injectors. So I would say that the first good engine is 6068453, built 4/11/03.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess that could be checked, just by checking your injectors against the engine serial number. I just squeaked in, as my engine build was 04/15/03 and the engine number was 607XXX, can't remeber exactly, but it is definately later than the reference above.
Tim, unfortunately, it appears that your 3/18 engine build will have the C94 injectors. I suppose that doesn't mean anything, unless you really have problems. Anyway, I still have a chance of having a problem, as the C95, have a 1 in 100 chance of failure, while the C 94's were 1 in 10. Hope yours are from 1 to nine in the series.
Lariat
Lariat thanks,
I am sure confused about all this stuff, (big encompassing word “stuff”) I world like to know a definitive answers, this is what these injectors will do; this is how they will feel when going bad. of course maybe they just crap out and that is it, dead beside the road.
Mine has run great, only 2432 miles on it and the only time it gets driven is when the trailer is hooked up……….horrible time to fail for anything, not that there is a good time!
I duno……..another big word…….I don’t want to wait and see, but I do not see a lot of other possibilities.
Andy this one is for you, if I took the truck in and said replace the injectors what could they say?
They ask me if I have the 1 to 9.......haha
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Re: Re: Injector ID, hopefully
Originally posted by Tim Lamkin
I world like to know a definitive answers, this is what these injectors will do; this is how they will feel when going bad.
I world like to know a definitive answers, this is what these injectors will do; this is how they will feel when going bad.
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And this morning I have recieved calls from texas telling me to stop as well..... Please do not copy these or mention this forum when talking to dealers or sales.....I am happy to help but I will not jepordize my job.....
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Could it be an intermittent miss, could it be very negligible. Almost hard to detect or feel in the seat of the pants kind of thing. Now the oil rising, could that cause foaming and ultimately hydro lock motor?
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Originally posted by Tim Lamkin
Could it be an intermittent miss, could it be very negligible. Almost hard to detect or feel in the seat of the pants kind of thing.
Could it be an intermittent miss, could it be very negligible. Almost hard to detect or feel in the seat of the pants kind of thing.