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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 08:34 AM
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Outside of a few interesting updates on EV's (mostly from Tom), there hasn't been much discussed on the Lightning Forum. No weird brake issues, no death wobble, weird rattles/noises, no advice on tires, no aftermarket modifications, etc....

It's a lot of the same old circular arguments that go nowhere.

Guessing/hoping that will change since Ford is talking 150,000 Lightnings per year.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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There isn’t much discussed here because they aren’t selling. Ford has a huge inventory of them and Mach Es. Price is part of the issue, practicality is the other.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Price is the biggest issue. People can't afford them or are unwilling to pay the outrageous prices for them. 80% of the US population lives in urban or suburban areas where ev's shine.

Then you have the other 20% that complain about them because they're impractical for their environment.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by '65Ford
Outside of a few interesting updates on EV's (mostly from Tom), there hasn't been much discussed on the Lightning Forum. No weird brake issues, no death wobble, weird rattles/noises, no advice on tires, no aftermarket modifications, etc....

It's a lot of the same old circular arguments that go nowhere.

Guessing/hoping that will change since Ford is talking 150,000 Lightnings per year.
  • As I understand it, most EV's have hydraulic hybrid brakes where most ICE vehicles are hydraulic. If you are referring to electronically controlled brakes, there are issues pertaining to those that have been addressed in the past.
  • Death wobble is normally associated with worn suspension or modified suspension.
  • I am laughing at the "weird rattles/noises", that doesn't even deserve a response.
  • Advice, questions and discussions on tires has been a point of conversation here in this sub-forum a number of times.
  • No aftermarket modifications? Perhaps not for the Lighting because it is so new, but other EV's are and will be modified. Unless your definition of "modified" is limited to the drivetrain, then your statement is accurate.

When things will change is when manufacturers like Toyota don't settle for "this is how it is done" and strive to attain "this is how it should be done".
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:10 AM
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Price is the biggest issue. People can't afford them.
Or don't want to purchase them due to the price. I could buy a brand new 2023 Lighting outright with cash right now, but do I want to, not a chance. It is not a good purchase at this time based on the role it would fill in my vehicle inventory of 4 vehicles. I'll sit back and watch the trial and error days go by and wait for the battery and charging technology to get out of the infancy state. Then, I am confident an EV will be in our inventory.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sous
  • As I understand it, most EV's have hydraulic hybrid brakes where most ICE vehicles are hydraulic. If you are referring to electronically controlled brakes, there are issues pertaining to those that have been addressed in the past.
  • Death wobble is normally associated with worn suspension or modified suspension.
  • I am laughing at the "weird rattles/noises", that doesn't even deserve a response.
  • Advice, questions and discussions on tires has been a point of conversation here in this sub-forum a number of times.
  • No aftermarket modifications? Perhaps not for the Lighting because it is so new, but other EV's are and will be modified. Unless your definition of "modified" is limited to the drivetrain, then your statement is accurate.

When things will change is when manufacturers like Toyota don't settle for "this is how it is done" and strive to attain "this is how it should be done".
I was actually just plucking random topics from the other forums for examples to illustrate there's nothing to talk about with Lightnings....likely because there's only been a few thousand sold.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:18 AM
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Practicality has to do with range and recharging. Using a truck for work or recreational purposes poses a serious issue concerning how far the truck will go on a charge and the length of time and cost to recharge it.


The lightning isn’t ready. It’s not suited for use outside of a metro area, as is the case for most EVs. As it stands it’s a suburban driveway status symbol. The used prices on these will likely be abysmal in the not too distant future.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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Or don't want to purchase them due to the price. I could buy a brand new 2023 Lighting outright with cash right now, but do I want to, not a chance. It is not a good purchase at this time based on the role it would fill in my vehicle inventory of 4 vehicles. I'll sit back and watch the trial and error days go by and wait for the battery and charging technology to get out of the infancy state. Then, I am confident an EV will be in our inventory.
True that, I was going to edit my post to include those unwilling to buy due to cost especially when, like myself, having a fairly new truck even@10 years old, 27k miles. I would love to have a new EV in my driveway, why would I give up a barely broke in truck for an over priced one?

They would have to have one helluva incentive to do so. Looking at sticker price on the new EV truck says that ain't happening.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
True that, I was going to edit my post to include those unwilling to buy due to cost especially when, like myself, having a fairly new truck even@10 years old, 27k miles. I would love to have a new EV in my driveway, why would I give up a barely broke in truck for an over priced one?

They would have to have one helluva incentive to do so. Looking at sticker price on the new EV truck says that ain't happening.
Then keep your nice, low mile truck and buy a Model 3 or Mach E. It would make zero sense to get rid of that truck, especially considering the cost to replace it with a new one with near the same options.

To replace my 2015, that stickered for $52k and sold for $40k, I would have to spend $64-65k. Mine is in excellent condition for it's age and only has 67k miles on it. No way will I part with it. I can sell it for low 30s, but then I start all over again paying $40k after taxes for a new one.

Some might argue that those of us with low mile trucks are the perfect candidates for an electric one. Not so in my case, as the truck may not get driven much, but when it does it goes hundreds of miles at a time. EVS absolutely have a place, but in my opinion, they will never replace gas/diesel powered vehicles unless there is governmental force to do so. The free market should be allowed to decide. I truly don't understand the all or nothing arguments. One side on their hill screaming "No EVs" and the other side screaming "EVs will replace and everything, it's the future" and both willing to die on their respective hill. Absolutely sad and silly at the same time, to watch from the valley below.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Then keep your nice, low mile truck and buy a Model 3 or Mach E. It would make zero sense to get rid of that truck, especially considering the cost to replace it with a new one with near the same options.

To replace my 2015, that stickered for $52k and sold for $40k, I would have to spend $64-65k. Mine is in excellent condition for it's age and only has 67k miles on it. No way will I part with it. I can sell it for low 30s, but then I start all over again paying $40k after taxes for a new one.

Some might argue that those of us with low mile trucks are the perfect candidates for an electric one. Not so in my case, as the truck may not get driven much, but when it does it goes hundreds of miles at a time. EVS absolutely have a place, but in my opinion, they will never replace gas/diesel powered vehicles unless there is governmental force to do so. The free market should be allowed to decide. I truly don't understand the all or nothing arguments. One side on their hill screaming "No EVs" and the other side screaming "EVs will replace and everything, it's the future" and both willing to die on their respective hill. Absolutely sad and silly at the same time, to watch from the valley below.
Buying another vehicle any type makes even less sense as I can't drive more than one at a time lol. As a home owner I require a truck, which I already have.

I do have an ev in the garage though, has two blades, 30" cut and headlights.
 
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