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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 05:43 AM
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What Thermostat?

Morning, fellas.

I'm building a 351W for my 1986 F-250. I have AFR 165 head's, Performer 2181 intake, Hydraulic Flat Tappet cam, Advertised Duration 254/262, Lift .477/.493, and Edelbrock AVS 2, 650 cfm carb.

It's not going to be a race truck or anything. Just real healthy.

Just want to know what you recommend for a thermostat temperature to put in there.

Thank you - Thomas
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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I'd recommend the 180* Motorad thermostat (bought Stant). Either that or the Motorcraft thermostat. Don't bother with a Gates thermostat. I had one fail closed on my classic Oldsmobile.
 
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Originally Posted by Olds64
I'd recommend the 180* Motorad thermostat (bought Stant). Either that or the Motorcraft thermostat. Don't bother with a Gates thermostat. I had one fail closed on my classic Oldsmobile.
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Originally Posted by Olds64
I'd recommend the 180* Motorad thermostat (bought Stant). Either that or the Motorcraft thermostat. Don't bother with a Gates thermostat. I had one fail closed on my classic Oldsmobile.
What about a good water neck?
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Have you looked at Summit Racing, they tend to have better quality parts, you can call them and talk to a real person and ask for advice too. I've spent tons of money with them back in our race cars days. When It came time for a heater for my new garage, they had everything needed in one simple phone call.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 11:18 AM
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DOH! I don't have anything against Summit or Jegs. I've ordered from them plenty of times. Just make sure you get a good quality part. Delayed post there, sorry.

If the OE thermostat housing is damaged then you can get a replacement online. They even offer them in a kit with the housing, gasket and thermostat. I'd recommend Motorad or Motorcraft if the go that route.
 
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Originally Posted by Olds64
DOH! I don't have anything against Summit or Jegs. I've ordered from them plenty of times. Just make sure you get a good quality part. Delayed post there, sorry.

If the OE thermostat housing is damaged then you can get a replacement online. They even offer them in a kit with the housing, gasket and thermostat. I'd recommend Motorad or Motorcraft if the go that route.
Okay - will look for the whole kit.

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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 09:10 PM
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Whatever temperature rating you pick, it's WELL worth the time to test the new one before installation.

The subject is near and dear to my heart as my car was giving me fits a few years ago. I had to try 3 new thermostats before finding one reasonably accurate. The worst was OEM. Second worst was name brand aftermarket. Finally tried a different brand aftermarket and that was good.


I also like to test the old one now, too, to confirm my diagnosis/hunch/guess it was indeed bad. It's more helpful to test side-by-side, as it's easier to see which one is responding when.
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Went through something similar with my truck, too. Lots of crap parts out there, sitting on a shelf waiting to trip you up.

Here's a good primer on thermostat operation and testing:


https://knowhow.napaonline.com/tempe...ps-and-tricks/


A thermostat's rated temperature is when it should start opening. At 20F above this value, it should be fully open. So if your thermostat is rated for 190F, that's when you should see it crack open. It should be fully open at 210F. Test when it opens as heat rises, and when it closes while cooling down.

FWIW, I installed a 180 thermostat in my '84 351W. Been very happy with it.



 
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Whatever temperature rating you pick, it's WELL worth the time to test the new one before installation.

The subject is near and dear to my heart as my car was giving me fits a few years ago. I had to try 3 new thermostats before finding one reasonably accurate. The worst was OEM. Second worst was name brand aftermarket. Finally tried a different brand aftermarket and that was good.


I also like to test the old one now, too, to confirm my diagnosis/hunch/guess it was indeed bad. It's more helpful to test side-by-side, as it's easier to see which one is responding when.
​​​​​​
Went through something similar with my truck, too. Lots of crap parts out there, sitting on a shelf waiting to trip you up.

Here's a good primer on thermostat operation and testing:


https://knowhow.napaonline.com/tempe...ps-and-tricks/


A thermostat's rated temperature is when it should start opening. At 20F above this value, it should be fully open. So if your thermostat is rated for 190F, that's when you should see it crack open. It should be fully open at 210F. Test when it opens as heat rises, and when it closes while cooling down.

FWIW, I installed a 180 thermostat in my '84 351W. Been very happy with it.
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