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Old Feb 6, 2023 | 10:20 AM
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1964 4x4 VIN Location

Numerous threads on this subject. Looking over the passenger front tire, between the front axle and steering center link i found my VIN number. My truck is a custom crew cab with 4 full size doors, a shortened "Wrong Bed" on the stock frame, and each wheel has 2 shock mounts, had to loosen the passenger front shock mount to wire brush frame to see my VIN number. It matches my warranty tag on the front drivers door.



1964 F110 4X4 VIN Location under wrench. Inline with steering center link.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 09:54 AM
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Appears to be a "Scottbilt" conversion. I suppose they used some bondo in the rear doors to get the body lines to match up. If the frame is not stretched, you lose a lot of cargo area on these.

 
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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I think you are correct, Looks like my truck conversion. The frame has not been altered, and since it will never be a work truck, the shortened bed is unique and welcomed. Thanks Again for this ad, gave me a good place to research.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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I collect information about as many (especially the unique ones) trucks as possible. Would you mind posting a picture of the warranty plate on the driver's door?

Lots of interesting 1964's turning up lately it seems like.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 05:51 PM
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Ad mentioned approx. 1000lbs additional weight? Never weighed a cab before. Should be no problem for the thicker 4.74 section modulus 4x4 frame ( F100 same as F 250).
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dcf1970
My truck is a custom crew cab with 4 full size doors, a shortened "Wrong Bed" on the stock frame
Very cool truck! When you say "stock frame", what frame do you think it was from? 64 stock 4x4 frame would be 120" WB. Yours looks a lot longer. Do you think they used an F250 or F350 frame? Interesting... Not doubting what you are saying... just curious.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 07:15 AM
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Just took the warranty plate information, and i checked the frame has not been altered, but that does not mean someone could of used a longer stock frame.
 
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Just took the warranty plate information, and i checked the frame has not been altered, but that does not mean someone could of used a longer stock frame.
Yes, I imagine the conversion company used a longer frame. What's the wheelbase?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 01:12 PM
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Just measured wheel center to wheel center, 132 inches center to center. Now comes the fun, the VIN stamp on the frame is factory (has the factory star pattern stamp before and after the VIN Number on the frame that matches the door warranty plate, and the door warranty plate shows "120". So assuming they took the cab off of the original truck, added the 2nd cab to the 1st cab, put that on the frame, then shortened the factory bed to fit on the remaining space, the bed only use 6 bed bolts vice 8.
 
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Originally Posted by dcf1970
Just measured wheel center to wheel center, 132 inches center to center. Now comes the fun, the VIN stamp on the frame is factory (has the factory star pattern stamp before and after the VIN Number on the frame that matches the door warranty plate, and the door warranty plate shows "120". So assuming they took the cab off of the original truck, added the 2nd cab to the 1st cab, put that on the frame, then shortened the factory bed to fit on the remaining space, the bed only use 6 bed bolts vice 8.
Interesting. 132" is what the F350 used, but since it has the F100 Vin stamp they may have stretched it but did such a good job that it's hard to detect? Ot they got unstamped F350 frames from Ford and were authorized to stamp them? While the F100 and F250 frames were the same, I believe the F350 used a heavier, taller section, frame. I wonder what yours is? My 64 F250 frame is 6" tall under the cab.
 
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Looks like a 120" wheelbase to me.
 
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Rear Leaf Springs are bolted to the frame, not riveted, plus extra holes in frame in front of rear leaf springs.

Middle cab mount. 53-56 F100 cab mount used, also used on rer cab mount.

Here is the double steel plate covering the welded line between the frame, just aft of the front wheel door well and the start of the 2nd door well area.
Just crawled under the truck, the frame is 7 inches high under the cabs, 6 inches in the front bumper section and after looking closer, i can see where they added a doubler plate to the frame where the 2 cabs are joined and i can see a thin welded line in that area, it is covered under the doubler plate. So look like the stock frame was stretched, but some weird items, the axles are 5x5 not the heavier 8 bolt, and the center & rear cab mounts are from the 53-56 cab mounts.and the rear leaf springs are bolted on vice a round head rivet like the front springs.
 
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