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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 08:09 PM
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4x4 doesn’t engage sometimes

Hey guys, so I got an 04 F350. 6.0 Dually. I’ve been chasing problems with the 4x4, I’ve replaced just about everything and don’t know what to do at this point. I’ve replaced vacuum motor, transfer case actuator motor, 4x4 switch in the cab, and both 4x4 relays. And still sometimes when I shift into 4x4. It just doesn’t go, light won’t come on. Nothing engages. I’ll wait for a bit, try again later, and it will go right in. Seems completely random. It’s also worth noting that when the truck is in 4x4, it will always disengage no problem. I have been reading about a transfer case control module. Is that something I can just replace? Or does it have to be programmed? I could really use some help here as it’s winter time and I get a lot of snow. Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 04:01 AM
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 04:03 AM
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awesome. Will check that out. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 04:22 AM
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By any chance have you done this with the heater on, and it goes from where you have it set
to blowing out of the defrosters?

Here are a few PDFs that may come in handy.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 04:24 AM
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By any chance have you done this with the heater on, and it goes from where you have it set
to blowing out of the defrosters?

Here are a few PDFs that may come in handy.
Yes, that is for testing the vacuum auto hubs. My problem isn’t there it’s in the electrical for the switch somewhere
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 05:24 AM
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Looks like I missed one in that upload.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 03:46 PM
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Get rid of the junk electric shift and swap a manual shift transfer case in.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 04:50 AM
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Don't you still need to switch vacuum on/off for the hubs with a manual transfer case?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Don't you still need to switch vacuum on/off for the hubs with a manual transfer case?
No, you lock the hubs manually.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:58 AM
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On my 03 with stock hubs, vacuum is required to unlock the hubs. Yeah, I could get aftermarket manual locking hubs, and I do prefer having the 4x4 shifter on the floor, but the convenience of 4 wheel drive at the push of a button outweighs the hassle of having to stop and get out to mess with the hubs. Of course my opinion may change as parts get harder to find.
 
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Originally Posted by Fuzzpuss
On my 03 with stock hubs, vacuum is required to unlock the hubs. Yeah, I could get aftermarket manual locking hubs, and I do prefer having the 4x4 shifter on the floor, but the convenience of 4 wheel drive at the push of a button outweighs the hassle of having to stop and get out to mess with the hubs. Of course my opinion may change as parts get harder to find.
If you need 4x4 just lock the hubs before you get in the truck and shift in and out of 4x4 as needed, I leave my hubs locked all winter.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:06 AM
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Being in Texas, I mostly only use 4wd in heavy rain, and the occasional ice storm. No need to waste fuel keeping the hubs locked all the time.
 
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Originally Posted by Fuzzpuss
Being in Texas, I mostly only use 4wd in heavy rain, and the occasional ice storm. No need to waste fuel keeping the hubs locked all the time.
You have to get in your truck at some point right? If there is an Ice storm lock the hubs before you get in the truck to leave. It takes so little torque to spin the front axle that the fuel milage difference is negligible.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:33 AM
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Also with the auto hubs vacuum locks the hubs, no vaccum unlocks them.
 
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How did I know you were going to focus on the occasional ice storm, which in proportion to heavy downpours, are almost non-existent? Whatever. I'm not arguing with you over my desire for convenience, or whether or not I have to get in or out of my truck at some point.

The early style locking hubs do require vacuum to disengage; in fact more than it takes to engage. If you take it apart it has a spring loaded mechanism, like the latch on an old stereo cabinet door. It has to be pushed to close, and pushed to open. There's a video with a guy testing the 4x4 hub engagement, and he put a gauge on the system and shows how it works. Thought I had it saved but can't find it.
 
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