Replacement key without Original?
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Since you have NO keys at all, your choices are to either have a GOOD mobile locksmith to come out to the truck or tow it to the dealer or a shop that can do the repair.
Not many choices for the DIYer unless you are very capable. You (or the dealer/locksmith) would have to drill out the ignition cylinder, and replace it, along with the door cylinder(s) with new keys cut to the new cylinders and then program the keys into the PATS systems.
Not many choices for the DIYer unless you are very capable. You (or the dealer/locksmith) would have to drill out the ignition cylinder, and replace it, along with the door cylinder(s) with new keys cut to the new cylinders and then program the keys into the PATS systems.
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I've had this happen. If the truck is under 10 years old the dealer can make a new key without the truck being in the shop. You need the VIN, a government issued ID, and proof of ownership. They can look up the original key code and cut a key from that.
I had this happen to a car older than 10 years. I had a mobile locksmith come out and cut two new keys. He didn't have to change anything on the car, he just did his magic and made me two keys that work fine in the car. This was about two years ago, it cost $170.
I had this happen to a car older than 10 years. I had a mobile locksmith come out and cut two new keys. He didn't have to change anything on the car, he just did his magic and made me two keys that work fine in the car. This was about two years ago, it cost $170.
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I've had this happen. If the truck is under 10 years old the dealer can make a new key without the truck being in the shop. You need the VIN, a government issued ID, and proof of ownership. They can look up the original key code and cut a key from that.
I had this happen to a car older than 10 years. I had a mobile locksmith come out and cut two new keys. He didn't have to change anything on the car, he just did his magic and made me two keys that work fine in the car. This was about two years ago, it cost $170.
Crap lol! My F250 is almost 11 years old now...that sucks. Well, guess it is off to find the best locksmith!
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Call your dealer anyway with your VIN. You might get lucky![/QUOTE]
Dealer says they have to have my F250 there to program it...
The key itself runs 170 plus tax plus programming is another 180 plus tax....SHEESH.
Dealer says they have to have my F250 there to program it...
The key itself runs 170 plus tax plus programming is another 180 plus tax....SHEESH.
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Dealers are often a good choice, but are usually the most expensive choice.
When I lost the keys to my 2002 Lincoln LS with PATS I saw a locksmith making keys on a dealer's lot. I talked to him and made an appointment to come to the house and make two keys, including programming. My total cost was $170. The keys work fine.
Find a local locksmith. They know how to do this.
When I lost the keys to my 2002 Lincoln LS with PATS I saw a locksmith making keys on a dealer's lot. I talked to him and made an appointment to come to the house and make two keys, including programming. My total cost was $170. The keys work fine.
Find a local locksmith. They know how to do this.
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Mountain Pass
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[QUOTE=projectSHO89;20578040]They can indeed cut new keys for a vehicle that is within the range that they still have the data for. The replacement keys do, of course, still need to programmed for PATS (and RKE functions, if applicable). PATS can be DIY with Forscan. Will still cost over $100 per key with minimum of two needed.
What is Forscan? So is what you are saying that I buy 2 keys from the dealer, use this Forscan to DIY the programming? What if the dealer says they won't let me buy keys without programming it there?
What is Forscan? So is what you are saying that I buy 2 keys from the dealer, use this Forscan to DIY the programming? What if the dealer says they won't let me buy keys without programming it there?
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You can download Forscan at www.forscan.org. I recommend calling a locksmith. They can do the whole process for about half of what the dealer will charge you for only the keys, if they will sell you the keys without the programming.
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You can download Forscan at www.forscan.org. I recommend calling a locksmith. They can do the whole process for about half of what the dealer will charge you for only the keys, if they will sell you the keys without the programming.
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So 2 different Ford dealers are saying they are not going to be able to do anything with my truck due to the production date being Sept. 14th, 2011. They said they don't have access to the key codes because it's older than 10 years. What am I going to do now?
Will I have to get a whole new ignition lock cylinder???
Will I have to get a whole new ignition lock cylinder???
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