I HATE EFI! Please help.
Here's a pretty good summary:
1) Stalls a lot when in gear and coming to a stop. Computer does not bump up the RPMs when put in gear. Idle air control valve does work. Computer does bump up cold idle speed & returns to normal idle after warmup. Idles too low in gear.
2) Starts hard cold. Cycling the fuel pump several times before cranking makes no difference. A shot of starting fluid & it starts right up. Starts fine when up to operating temperature. Fuel pressure 48 psi @ 20”, 52 psi @ 10”, 54 psi @ 0”.
3) Off idle surge.
No check engine lite. No codes. Passes KOEO and KOER test. Engine is mechanically sound. Acceptable oil pressure. Acceptable compression (1) 160 (2) 150 (3) 160 (4) 140 (5) 150 (6) 155
When I got the truck, the TPS and the EGR position sensor were bad. These have been repaired.
Temporarily blocked off the EGR valve: made no difference.
Tried several different good used parts: coil, ignition coil radio capacitor noise filter, IAT sensor and MAP sensor: made no difference.
Local repair shop replaced the coolant temperature sensor: made no difference and I already knew there was nothing wrong with the original sensor.
No vacuum leaks.
New ignition module. New distributor pickup. Distributor shaft and bushings are not worn. New idle air control valve. New cap, rotor, spark plugs, plug wires, fuel filter, air filter, PCV valve. Injectors cleaned twice. Gas is fresh. Under hood condition is (mostly) stock and unmolested. 3G upgrade.
Thank you.
Last edited by David K; Jul 29, 2022 at 07:20 PM.
What condition is the smog(air injection) equipment in? All original and functional? Does it have anything that sounds like an exhaust leak?
The TPS can be installed with the rheostat catches behind the throttle shaft catch, and not advance the voltage.
ECM: F0TF-KA Correct as far as I can tell. Nothing obviously burned up inside.
Transmission works great. Obviously has been rebuilt at some point because the shifts are slightly firm as they should be in a truck. Not a mushy slush box like Ford built them.
Smog pump and associated parts present, original, and working.
No exhaust leaks.
TPS is new and working correctly. It has a linear voltage output to wide open throttle.
I should also mention that any new parts I installed where of good quality, not Amazon no-name cheapies. New TPS is an Echlin that I bought about 16 years and never used. New idle air control valve is a Hitachi (same as Ford used). New distributor pickup is NTK/NGK. ETC.
Also inspected the vast majority of the engine harness and associated plugs.
ECM: F0TF-KA Correct as far as I can tell. Nothing obviously burned up inside.
Transmission works great. Obviously has been rebuilt at some point because the shifts are slightly firm as they should be in a truck. Not a mushy slush box like Ford built them.
Smog pump and associated parts present, original, and working.
No exhaust leaks.
TPS is new and working correctly. It has a linear voltage output to wide open throttle.
I should also mention that any new parts I installed where of good quality, not Amazon no-name cheapies. New TPS is an Echlin that I bought about 16 years and never used. New idle air control valve is a Hitachi (same as Ford used). New distributor pickup is NTK/NGK. ETC.
Also inspected the vast majority of the engine harness and associated plugs.
Edit:
You say it shifts OK so disregard the above.
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Inspected the vast majority of the engine harness and associated plugs. No issues found.
This is just great! Wife and I have 3 vehicles. Two of them are currently fouled up and we both have to be at work on Monday.
Last edited by David K; Jul 29, 2022 at 08:12 PM.
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My '89 Mustang 5.0 had a weird quark where I would start it up in the morning and it would immediately stall. It would start up and idle perfectly after I restarted it. I changed out the ECU and it immediately fixed the problem.
Is there anything else on the truck that doesn't work? Thing like inop tail lights, or inop air-conditioning could be a hint.
My '89 Mustang 5.0 had a weird quark where I would start it up in the morning and it would immediately stall. It would start up and idle perfectly after I restarted it. I changed out the ECU and it immediately fixed the problem.
Is there anything else on the truck that doesn't work? Thing like inop tail lights, or inop air-conditioning could be a hint.
Everything else on the truck works.
I don't recall ever pulling the SPOUT connector while cold. When pulling SPOUT connector for setting timing, etc., engine should be at operating temperature.
I don't recall the exact procedure but there is a procedure for testing if the ECM has control of the timing. I did that test and it passed.














