Originally Posted by Scndsin

Because you're part of the 33.3% of the people who got lucky with a C-2

Originally Posted by 1Butcher

That could be for certain but I usually am not the lucky one.

Originally Posted by Duke5A

I've owned my '92 for 25 years and my grandfather owned it before that. The only drive accessory on the front of the motor to never have been replaced in 155k miles is the PS pump. Should I buy a lotto ticket? It will get a Saginaw at some point though.

Originally Posted by 1Butcher

The term 'There is no market' means you will not be able to make a profit if you sold them. I suspect there would be a minimum that you would have to buy for someone to design/manufacture a custom bracket. I can only guess, you would never even break even.......ever.

No matter how you look at it, the 4.9 was made for those that could not afford anything bigger or able to afford the gas to fill it up. Some people like the way a pickup is. There are those that need a pickup to do work. I cannot imagine anyone that wants a pickup to do work would prefer a 4.9. Yes, I am certain there is, but very very few. I don't know the ratio of the 4.9 vs the rest but I would believe they did not make many.

My daily driver is a 81 VW Pickup. It sucks as a pickup, is sucks as a daily driver, it sucks because it's too small for me. But I like it and I put around 20k miles a year on it. I would never disagree with anyone that would put down my truck. It is a POS. If I did not like it so much, I would agree with the facts. It's my truck and it works for me. I suspect that everyone that owns a 4.9 F150 feels just like me with my VW Pickup. It's ok to be weird, but the facts are, the 4.9 is not desirable for most people. If you walk out to your truck and it makes you smile, who cares what others think. If you think business' are going to make parts to keep that smile on your face, I think you are dreaming.

Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks

I have always used Type F ATF. Some pumps are louder than others.

Originally Posted by AuroraGirl

type F isnt so bad but its pretty viscous
Id like to attempt a compatibility test with a seals from a obs ford gear box (if anyone wanted to send me one if they rebuilt or removed their old one, id love that) and try valvoline white bottle PS fluid, its thinner and it matches the spec that GM used when they stopped saying to use DEX III in the 90s and instead use PS fluid, for very good reasons.

TO my understanding, the only reason these trucks have type F is because its chemically benign and doesnt harm the gear box seals , the pump and hoses are of little worry ,and the teflon seal as well.

Originally Posted by AuroraGirl

type F isnt so bad but its pretty viscous
Id like to attempt a compatibility test with a seals from a obs ford gear box (if anyone wanted to send me one if they rebuilt or removed their old one, id love that) and try valvoline white bottle PS fluid, its thinner and it matches the spec that GM used when they stopped saying to use DEX III in the 90s and instead use PS fluid, for very good reasons.

TO my understanding, the only reason these trucks have type F is because its chemically benign and doesnt harm the gear box seals , the pump and hoses are of little worry ,and the teflon seal as well.
Type F doesnt behave as poorly as Dex 3 did in PS pumps (or Mercon V/Dex VI), but its thick and harder to get on shelves with time. I had asked for some at oreillies. ONE quart. in store. also highly recommend Seafoam trans tune to replace a portion of your ATF, it makes it thinner a bit and it helps remove varnish and debris and can quiet or make the pump a little lighter.

I must say my f150 steers quite fine, and periodically the thing will be buttery smooth and quiet , but i cant seem to nail down a pattern to why because it will just revert back at some point to whining loudly even idling

Originally Posted by Scndsin

I've used F, Mercon V & the Valvoline. (pump has been disconnected many times)

And the sag just doesn't seem to care.

I've settled on the Val for constant availability, it's clear, plus doesn't seem to have the ATF stink

Originally Posted by oval bowtie

Lee Steering has been around a very long time. The owner, Tom Lee, was very knowledgeable and willing to talk with anyone about their pumps and gear boxes. He even did some of the hydraulic work on the animatronics at Disneyland. Like I said, very knowledgeable in his field and not pushy to sell. I did a hydroboost on a G body El Camino and Tom blueprinted the steering box and pump. Fair price and quick turn around. I also had them do a steering rack and pump for a GM J-body. Extremely pleased with their work. Lee Steering even has their own power steering fluid and it worked well for me when doing a few projects. I still run it today when doing a system. Tom, I believe has retired and sold the business, but the quality should be the same. I too was also looking to do this pump for a few reasons : inline 6, improved pump, still uses over the counter power steering hoses, looks stock, and I like the work Lee Steering has done for me in the past. It is a shame that a lot of the early hot rodding guys are disappearing, but that is life and time goes on.

Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks

I use Type F because that is what Ford put in there and what is recommended in the owner’s manual. Type F does not have the detergents that MERCON or other ATF fluids have in them. I put several hundred thousand miles on CII pumps in different vehicles. I converted two trucks to Saginaw pumps because they are better in every way. I looked it up once to see what fluid Ford used in the E- vans but I don’t remember if they used a GM spec fluid or Type F. How is that “white bottle” fluid different than regular p/s fluid?