Not Happy
Cargo Master
Joined: Jul 2021
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From: Ridgway, CO
The KBB offer was around 26k if I recall, the dealer wouldn't honor it... I am over 300 miles from anything carmax or carvana so I didn't even look into those.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jul 2021
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From: Ridgway, CO
I find warranty coverage to usually be more painful than just fixing it yourself... So many times it has just been a time consuming hassle it isn't worth the paper it is printed on. When salespeople brag up warranty coverage or try to sell me on it I ask them why they are trying to sell me junk that needs a warranty?
Lead Driver
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Itinerant
It does suck that there are not enough pieces and parts for repairs from poor workmanship. I'll guess some has to do with "covid" era of shortages and some has to do with bean counters and the bottom line. If I was in charge I would like to think it would be different but with a multi million dollar company with who knows how many layers of headaches and bean counters it is what it is. Don't like it buy another brand, maybe it's different there?
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jan 2022
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I use those to check the value and consider the higher of CarMax and Carvana to be be the low end of what I can get. I found it interesting that their offers were 4-5k higher in Des Moines (Granger) than in my locale, San Antonio.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: CA
Why not blame Bush? I'm sure you could find a way.....
Lead Driver
Joined: Feb 2022
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The Amish vote? I have yet to see a bumper sticker on any of their carriages. A good majority of the RV's built in Indiana are done by Amish workers, kind of funny to see their horses and carriages lined up in the parking lot.
Tuned
Joined: Oct 2021
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I find warranty coverage to usually be more painful than just fixing it yourself... So many times it has just been a time consuming hassle it isn't worth the paper it is printed on. When salespeople brag up warranty coverage or try to sell me on it I ask them why they are trying to sell me junk that needs a warranty?
You must only buy from private parties.
Mike
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Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2020
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From: Michigan
So the Amish build junk? I find that hard to believe.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Oct 2021
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From: British Columbia....Canad
I’m trading my 2020 350 Lariat with 10,000 miles in on a 2022 350 Platinum. Got X-Plan on new truck, $2500 PCO and great trade value on 2020. It will cost me $800 plus my trade. For $800 I get a 2 year newer truck with 2 more years warranty, and go fro Lariat to Platinum. The only down side is I needed to purchase 5th wheel prep kit ($650) and pay to get it installed.
That’s why I’m trading it in.
That’s why I’m trading it in.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Feb 2021
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I know there are some fine Amish craftsmen, but the RV industry does not hire them. There are a lot of Amish working in that industry, but they build some crap. It is amazing the crap you see on $100k RVs.
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2020
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From: Michigan
My wife and I have looked at some. Veneers peeling, hinges warped, carpet seems, color mismatched. We even saw gaps around windows you could see outside.....all on new RV's. Now scale that up to manufactured homes made in Elkhart as well.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2005
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I’ll throw in that my 2022 has a upper oil pan leak and the heated steering wheel stopped working. Also after getting the trailer brake loss software update I am getting gear slamming when stopping wile in tow haul. I get a new truck every 3 years and have a 150k warranty. Ill just run it til it needs to go in the shop.
Lead Driver
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I wouldn't say their work is shoddy, they do what they can with what they are given. Garbage in, Garbage out. The reason everything is like they are in RV's is to keep the weight down. If you were to put real Amish built cabinets in and have the RV built by Amish standards, it would weigh tons more. It would be built really well, but you would need a semi tractor to tow it. I put the blame squarely on the manufacturers who design them.
The past year the RV industry was in turmoil due to lack of workers and materials. They could not keep workers on the line for some reason and had to keep training new workers, so anything built in 2021 would be suspect of build quality. The number of recalls is astounding, especially with the LP systems.
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Sep 2000
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From: Stephensville WI
This is a completely normal process. MOST people trade in "perfectly good" vehicles on new ones. You are likely the exception. It is always a gamble on a new vehicle I do not understand the notion of "That's on him". Ford should have delivered a brand new vehicle in perfect condition, that's actually on them and he has every right to be upset that there is a fairly major component failure on his new vehicle. It should also be on Ford to have a supply of parts the dealer can access in a timely manner to repair THIER screw up. I fail to see what is "on him" at all, he simply did what millions of people do everyday with the same reasonable expectations
