I'm trading a 2020 F350 SRW LB for a 2022 F350 DRW. New tires, new warranty and a dually. Trade in about the same as what I paid. So about $3K in "new" money. Happy because my wife is just as excited about the dually as I am.

 

I think it is completely luck of the draw, not a lot of people having problems and you would hear about them here if there were. Mine was in the first run of '22s dealer stock order built third week of Aug '21. So far it has been flawless and I am just over 30k miles since mid Sept '21. I have plowed snow with it commercially, towed big heavy equipment with it and done a 5500 mile cross country trip with it. Zero complaints so far, not been to the dealer for anything.

I would be ranting too waiting for parts for a new expensive truck, not just here either... I hope they get your truck back to you soon and working properly.

On the trading an almost new truck subject... Since I bailed on my delayed special order truck, if they ever start taking orders again I would consider ordering exactly what I want again without the pressure of needing a new truck on a timeline. People should be thrilled there are low mileage used trucks to be had given the current situation. Why, because you can, that is the only reason anybody needs IMO

 

It's the trading in part. He's completely responsible for that decision. I don't get rid of perfectly good vehicles just because I'm buying a new one. That's on him.

 

Agreed. I have an early 2022 and it’s been absolutely fantastic! Best truck I’ve ever owned.

And, I’m crazy enough, I may order a 2023 depending on the appearance and updates. If I like the changes, I’ll be ordering a new truck.

Mike

 

Which engine and differential is it? 6.7 diesel, 7.3 or 6.2 gas and which axle ratio?

 

Yeah but I think should be reasonable assuming the brand new one should be perfectly fine, at least for a year or more. Most people can't afford extra vehicles. How long do you keep the old one to insure the new one is fine 3 months? 6 months? And then a problem develops a week later. And during that time you're paying insurance and registration on a truck you're not using. Plus, if you don't trade in at the time of purchase you get dinged for the whole sales tax.

I would have done the same and be just as pissed. Yes, things can go wrong but if you're selling trucks you need to insure you can support what you've sold and not give some shoulder shrug with a sorry, we don't have parts.

 

This is a completely normal process. MOST people trade in "perfectly good" vehicles on new ones. You are likely the exception. It is always a gamble on a new vehicle I do not understand the notion of "That's on him". Ford should have delivered a brand new vehicle in perfect condition, that's actually on them and he has every right to be upset that there is a fairly major component failure on his new vehicle. It should also be on Ford to have a supply of parts the dealer can access in a timely manner to repair THIER screw up. I fail to see what is "on him" at all, he simply did what millions of people do everyday with the same reasonable expectations

 

I will be ordering a 2023 even if I don't like it.
I'll find a way to sell it and make money. I wouldn't dream of trading in a vehicle. It's a quick way to give the dealer a $10,000 tip. I buff it, sterilize the interior, and advertise if for way more than a trade would bring. Our sale tax is only 3.9%, so I don't get worked up about the trade difference tax savings.

 

I am afraid that market has changed a bit... I had my wifes car on the market for a pretty premium $27k for months. The dealer had offered $24k for the trade. It was actually their sister dealership that called me and wrote a check for $27k because they could not get any new cars. One big deciding factor these days is that 99% of buyers are too lazy to secure the financing they need in advance. the dealer makes that one stop instant gratification thing work in their favor for sure. I had the car on FB, CL EBay and just one nibble until the dealer bought it. Not even an expensive vehicle...No way there was ever going to be a 10k spread. I know who bought it, they paid 29k, 5k spread off the trade until they narrowed that gap to $2k. Unlikely I would have found someone to pay $29k in a private party sale. I have done this over 100 times, in the past, you were correct, today it is just a maybe. Dozens of stories of guys on here getting stupid premiums on trades, no way they could get $10k more from private party sales, just doesn't happen in a market like this. My sales tax is only 2.9% but they credited it as a trade since the dealerships had the same ownership.

 

Just curious, what did Carmax, Carvana or KBB offer?

 

You are right that the market has changed, and we've never seen it this weird. I did get exactly a $10K difference in my trade in offer. I won't buy a vehicle if financing is involved, that seems to be a great way to steal from your kids future. Pay cash or do without. I realize that I am the odd one with that mindset.

 

Don’t buy anything, ANYTHING made during Covid or while people are still screwed up from being at home during Covid. Travel trailers, RV’s, cars, trucks, etc…all require that the employee base be somewhat satisfied and normal or else the buyer gets a big piece of junk on purchase. These days, too many people are introverted germ-o-phobes with zero loyalty to their employers and many more than in the past aren’t taking pride in their own work product. That all translates to garbage in the marketplace. I’m sure there’s a way to blame Biden in all this, too .

 

Except the vast majority of RV's are made in Indiana which is a bible toting republican state. Which means we can blame Trump and Pence for that.

 

I’m an odd one too. Seems everyone claims they they can’t afford things without financing, but they don’t realize that you just make the payments before you buy it. Or they think they can make more investing.
Also when paying cash you are less likely to trade cars every few years. Much more painful to write a check, than to change payments. I’ve been driving the same truck for 20 years, so I figure it’s time for a new one.

 

My goal on a new vehicle is that it should never need warranty, if it has to go in for warranty repairs it makes me unhappy. Warranty should just give you piece of mind, but not be needed.