I have a few thousand acres and a backhoe at my disposal.


EDIT: I also have developed a very low tolerance for derelicts over the years.

 

Me too, I was just keeping it family friendly

 

Up here in Canada we don’t have the luxury of carry or concealed carry permits.

Our gun laws are extremely stringent.

Only the criminals get away with it, and generally they only use them on each other.

 

Obviously there's not enough of that going on.

 

Cost of ammo went too high for them

 

Nah,not like they pay for the ammo to begin with. They just steal more or another gun that's already loaded.

Now I say that, but... Many years ago my parent's house was broken into and several firearms were stolen. IIRC 3 .44 Revolvers, a custom 1911, a .270 hunting rifle, and an SKS. One of the .44s was mine. Was keeping it in out camper at the hunting club so I'd have something to carry and shoot if I went down after work (no civilian firearms on that federal property), dad brought it home for safe keeping when the season ended. Hind sight it would have been safer at the hunting club. A few years later local cops were chasing a hood rat, still in the hood, when he pulled a gun out of his waste band and tossed it into the weeds while running. Not only was my revolver recovered (little worse for the wear) it still had the same ammo in it as when it was stolen. 3 or 4 years and it had never been fired. Happy to have my gun back and that it hadn't been used, but I'd almost rather they kept it and prosecuted for possession of stolen property.

 

Subscribing

 

For the guns? Or for the immobilizer?

Oops, my bad. They're the same thing.

 

Maybe both.

Couple years ago I was doing a Reno in my bathroom. Found this buried in the floor.




Last weekend had a no start issue. Found this to be the culprit.



First picture was it installed. Second is well… disconnected.

No start is fixed.

 

That would either be a very nice find, or a very scary find. Referring to the former of course, the latter is nothing but bad. Sweet old 38 special, but I'd be wandering why it was hiding in the floor.

 

@F350towing I remember when you posted about the first find contemporaneously.

The second find is a puzzle. How long had the truck with the "passive immobilizer" been in your possession, without you noticing an issue, prior to the recent no start occurrence?

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For those with Autos who may not be familiar with what plugs into C261 when the jumper is removed from the harness connector shown in Post #1 (image callout #6 in parts drawing above), here is a look at the CPP switch assembly (image callout #5 in parts drawing above).

For those with factory wiring diagrams in the 99-01 range of years, refer to section 20-3 for wiring, and 20-4 for connector pin out (C261).

@cleatus12r makes an undeniable point about bridging the contacts on the fender mounted starter relay. I've had that relay (as well as the relay on the starter itself) covered up from view and/or quick access for years (and the Clifford alarm system has kept the truck in my driveway during an attempted theft). These measures are not enough to dissuade the determined... so I'm calling on our resident mad scientist @FordTruckNoob to develop some additional security solutions.

 

I say we go with the South African anti-carjacking flamethrower.

 

Unfortunately, you cannot harm someone for attempting to steal your ****.....

Also, remember the ‘plus one’ rule. Thief is rarely alone and his buddy is likely to take you out while you ‘detain’ him.

A local sheriff explained that if the thief attempts to run you over, that constitutes ‘in fear for your life’ and we could respond accordingly. He implied he really likes his truck and may stand in the way of it driving away. An attorney friend added to that the DA would ask why you’d put yourself in that position....

So, a good defensive tactic could be to have some steel targets in the yard. (It doesn’t hurt if the bullseyes are worn out!) A bit of late night target shooting from a safe location may encourage a potential thief to find another truck to steal.

If you live in the city, subdivision, unconstitutional state (or Canada) - I’m sorry about your limited options.

Specifically places like current Seattle, where the cops are literally NOT COMING if someone is attempting to steal from you. (Not life threatening)

 

I have owned the truck since 2004. Somewhere in 2005-2006 due to the prolific thefts of Superduty trucks our provincial insurance corporation sent out vouchers for a “free” immobilizer install.

I have searched for the receipt for the immobilizer install but to no avail. So I can’t confirm the exact timeline.

Never had a problem before until just last weekend when I went to move the truck out of my shop to give her a bath.

I get a discount on my comprehensive insurance (Fire / Theft) for the immobilizer being installed.

While cleaning up the spaghetti mess of wiring I noticed “Viola” the simple solution to create a no start that is easily reversible, hard to detect, and with a momentary switch basically foolproof. IE… I won’t forget to turn it off.

Just trying to decide on the right switch and placement before moving forward.

 

Tapping into an essential system (IDM, IPR, PCM, etc) is the only way to even have a chance at a kill switch or immobilizer. I would not recommend the CPP, just as I don't recommend the starter or fuel pump.

The starter relay is a hurdle when considering how to design a security feature, but it is easily overcome when a critical system of your choice is interrupted and the switch or restoration pricess of that system is hidden or tricky.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the POS immobilizer that was just removed already tapped into the PCM circuitry somewhere based on the no WTS light in the other thread. It would be easy to put a switch or "key" of some sort in the circuit that was already interrupted by the insurance approved immobilizer.