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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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Also, instead of pacing about and worrying if the oil is 1/32" below the fill plug, you'd far improve the life of the oil if you ditch the steel cover and install an aluminum with heat sink.

Lower oil operating temp means longer oil life and better lubrication properties
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
I haven’t scoured every inch of the 2022 manual, but all I have came across was the amount (3.6 quarts for the 10.8 axle) and the type. At least here it did not indicate a “level” it should be filled to. Regardless, I don’t feel concerned about the level in mine, and until I drain it and refill it I won’t know where that level is.
For ref: Copy of info on page 601 (2020 service manual):


 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 02:13 PM
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Based on the picture above, that is about what mine was filled too. I don't see what would be different between the 2020 model and the 2022 model, but this is all I can find in my 2022 manual (again, I haven't scoured the entire thing).

Axle and Transfer Case MaintenanceAxle(s) and transfer case (4X4 only) fluid changes or level checks are not required unless a leak is suspected or the assembly has been submerged in water. During long periods of trailer towing with outside temperatures above 70°F (21°C) or at wide-open throttle for long periods above 45 mph (72 km/h), change the rear axle fluid every 30,000 mi (48,000 km) if the rear axle is filled with non-synthetic fluid. This interval can be waived and the 150,000 mi (240,000 km) service interval can continue if the rear axle is filled with 75W140 synthetic gear fluid meeting Ford

specification WSL-M2C192-A, part number XY-75W140-QL, or equivalent. Add friction modifier XL-3 (EST-M2C118-A) or equivalent for complete refill of Traction-Lok rear axles. See Capacities and Specifications (page 467).
Then, under the capacities and specifications, there is this:

Rear Axle - 10.8 Capacities
Variant Quantity

All. 3.6 qt (3.42 L)

Materials

Name Specification

Motorcraft® SAE 75W-140 Synthetic Rear Axle Lubricant(U.S.)
Motorcraft® SAE 75W-140 Synthetic Rear Axle Lubricant / Lubrifiant synthétique pour pont arrière SAE 75W-140 Motorcraft®(Canada) XY-75W140-QL(U.S.)

CXY-75W140-1L(Canada)

WSL-M2C192-A
This thread has certainly made me think about the diff fluids more than I did before, and I will likely drain and refill mine sometime soon, and then continue to do the same every 30k miles since we will be towing a lot. Then, after watching the YT video from Banks... that kind of makes me want to replace the cover too! lol...
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 02:17 PM
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He is talking SERVICE manual, which is used to repair the vehicle. You won't find that stuff in the owner's manual.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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lol... I missed that! Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 12:53 PM
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Should I be concerned if the level on mine is 7 - 8 mm below the plug hole with a stone cold not-been-driven-for-two-weeks vehicle?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doyall
Should I be concerned if the level on mine is 7 - 8 mm below the plug hole with a stone cold not-been-driven-for-two-weeks vehicle?
No. That's very close to the proper level. There are posts on this subject on a few different forums I've been following. A few people have drained and refilled the correct amount and the level ends up being a little below the fill plug hole. A couple millimeters overfilled is not going to matter if the graphic above is correct (10-15mm below the hole is proper).
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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I guess it would be nice if there was something that could be used as a measuring tool to see how many mm below the hole the oil level is, so not just a pinky.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Back2Gas?
I guess it would be nice if there was something that could be used as a measuring tool to see how many mm below the hole the oil level is, so not just a pinky.
Get a coat hanger. I guess I should say a metal wire coat hanger since someone will undoubtedly carp about how it doesn't work with plastic or wood. Put a 90-degree bend in a straight length. From the seat of the bend, measure down 10mm or roughly 3/8" and with a sharp object, like a knife or maybe even a screwdriver, put a register into the wire at that measured point. I would leave a little on the wire past the register so you can see where it would be low should something happen. Then cut off the rest. Now, you can remove the plug, insert your wire and see if the oil come up to the register. But, again, the oil isn't consumed, so unless you have a leak, it's not going anywhere.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by C12H24
Get a coat hanger. I guess I should say a metal wire coat hanger since someone will undoubtedly carp about how it doesn't work with plastic or wood. Put a 90-degree bend in a straight length. From the seat of the bend, measure down 10mm or roughly 3/8" and with a sharp object, like a knife or maybe even a screwdriver, put a register into the wire at that measured point. I would leave a little on the wire past the register so you can see where it would be low should something happen. Then cut off the rest. Now, you can remove the plug, insert your wire and see if the oil come up to the register. But, again, the oil isn't consumed, so unless you have a leak, it's not going anywhere.
There you go guys, problem solved!
Yet another use for a coat hanger.
Thanks Rusty.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
Also, instead of pacing about and worrying if the oil is 1/32" below the fill plug, you'd far improve the life of the oil if you ditch the steel cover and install an aluminum with heat sink.

Lower oil operating temp means longer oil life and better lubrication properties
Done.

Did my change at 25k miles. Filled the diff until fluid ran out of the fill hole...just like I've done all my life, and like my dad did all his life (a lifelong auto and heavy equipment mechanic). Some of ya'll worry too much





 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Done.

Did my change at 25k miles. Filled the diff until fluid ran out of the fill hole...just like I've done all my life, and like my dad did all his life (a lifelong auto and heavy equipment mechanic). Some of ya'll worry too much




It's one of those things that can be easily overlooked or nags in the back of your head until you confirm it's right. The big problem is that by the time you realize there's a problem, there's a serious problem and the warranty may be done.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Done.

Did my change at 25k miles. Filled the diff until fluid ran out of the fill hole...just like I've done all my life, and like my dad did all his life (a lifelong auto and heavy equipment mechanic). Some of ya'll worry too much
FInally secured the elusive OEM M300 cover. Waiting on the bolts then will ditch the steel cover.

Interesting note is that the gas trucks call for 80-90W and diesel is the 140 weight oil. Same axle.


 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 09:21 PM
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diesel is the 140 weight oil.
Besides the 140WT, do I need anything else? I'll have the electronic locking diff.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Back2Gas?
I guess it would be nice if there was something that could be used as a measuring tool to see how many mm below the hole the oil level is, so not just a pinky.
I used brown cardboard cut into an "L" shape and measured off with a ruler. The level may have measured 7 - 8 mm instead of 10+ due to being absorbed up into the cardboard but it sure was easy to read.
 
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