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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:35 AM
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Camper Package-Towing

Hey everyone,

When building a Lariat it gives you an option to add a Camper Package. ( Heavy-service front springs (4x4) (1-up upgrade above the spring that has been computer-selected based on other selected options. Not included if maximum springs have been computer-selected as standard equipment.)-Rear auxiliary springs (F-250 only; standard on F-350)

If you add the 20 " Chrome wheels, (I'm trying to compare the same build to the F 250 4x4 King Ranch that only comes in 20" wheels) it removes the Camper Package. Supposedly you can add the Camper Package to the King Ranch as well but I didn't see it. By removing the Camper Package in the Lariat it looks like it adds the 1" up springs in the front. My build in the King Ranch will be a 7.3 gas, 3.55 Electronic Locking Ratio, 10,000 GVR. Would adding the 4X4 Off Road as well as keeping the Heavy Service Front Suspension Package be of any benefit or should I just keep the 1" up Front Suspension and forget the Off Road Package? I can get the skid plates separately and the hill descent isn't important.
I plan to to a 28 foot camper that weighs about 6,000 dry and a GVWR of 7,600. I'm I losing any towing capacity in the KR with the 20" wheels. I doubt it does but why would it remove the Camper Package?
I really want the King Ranch with the massaging seats and pricing between the two trucks isn't that much different. When it says "Not Included if maximum spring have been computer selected" does that mean, I would already have the max springs?

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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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20" with AT tires have the same or more load rating than the 18" with the AT tires. 18" with the standard tires have lower load rating.

The ford towing guide has all that information.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:50 AM
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For the weights you listed a F150 would handle fine. Unless you plan to buy a heavier fifth wheel don’t even stress about it you’ll have plenty of capacity for your needs in the F250. Get the comfort features you desire. Once you start getting into 11-12k lbs dry then start worrying about needing the F350.

I believe the springs they are taking about are the front springs. If you get the plow prep it goes to the max springs up front.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:50 AM
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:02 AM
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Camper package is just that, for trucks with a slide-in camper, won't help you at all for towing a camper.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Camper package is just that, for trucks with a slide-in camper, won't help you at all for towing a camper.
You don't think the overload (F250), sway bar and +1 front spring will not help with travel trailer towing?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 05F250DSL
For the weights you listed a F150 would handle fine. Unless you plan to buy a heavier fifth wheel don’t even stress about it you’ll have plenty of capacity for your needs. Get the comfort features you desire. Once you start getting into 11-12k lbs dry then start worrying about needing the F350.

I believe the springs they are taking about are the front springs. If you get the plow prep it goes to the max springs up front.

The 150 doesn't have enough payload. The tongue weight on this camper is over 900 LBS, plus I want to be comfortable towing on longer trips or mountains.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:47 AM
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For whatever strange reason, Ford does not allow the camper package with 20" wheels. It doesn't appear to be a weight issue.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 11:29 AM
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I like the rear sway bar
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 11:29 AM
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My XLT has the camper package. I can add this:

1. It rides real nice unloaded. I have 18" wheels with OEM tires.
2. The torsion bar on the rear axle helps with body roll when towing a 5th wheel, IMHO. I have never towed without a rear torsion bar so I can't compare with v without.
3. I have 3,274 pound of payload (gassser) so I'm not close to overloaded with my particular trailer
4. You could tow just fine without it, I suspect.
5. On my truck it was like $165
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BSHORT
You don't think the overload (F250), sway bar and +1 front spring will not help with travel trailer towing?
Front spring won't help at all, hardly any weight gets transferred to the front when towing.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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I don't have a slide in truck camper any longer, but when I ordered my 2022 F350 CCLB Lariat I ordered the camper package for the rear sway bar alone. It helps towing and rides great empty. You can add it after market. I also chose the 18" wheels as I like more sidewall for forest roads and chains. I didn't get a King Ranch because I didn't want 20" wheels/tires.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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Now that 20” wheels are standard on the KR, Ford no longer offers the camper package on that trim level or higher. As a result, I’ll be keeping my F-350 Lariat Ultimate with 18” wheels for a while.

The camper package includes an auxiliary spring leaf (aka “overload”) on the rear spring packs. However, the extra leaf doesn’t engage for the first four inches or so of suspension compression, so no, it doesn’t do much until it’s time to help control a load near the end of the suspension travel.

The rear stabilizer bar helps with side-to-side roll. However, it also inhibits off-road suspension articulation, so it’s not a cure-all.

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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Front spring won't help at all, hardly any weight gets transferred to the front when towing.
Sure it does, if using a wdh.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 02:10 PM
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I believe the 7.3 comes with 1+ front springs compared to the 6.2. I think its only 150lbs heavier or something around that. I would stick with the stock springs unless you plan to add a large front bumper.

Your trailer will be fine with your f250 king ranch 7.3. Will come with a 2.5” 15,000/1,500 hitch and most will recommend a W/D hitch to help with keeping it all even.
 
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