Hi all,

I have a 2020 F350 7.3L CCLB and am looking at ordering an F250 6.7 SCSB.

The CCLB is a great truck but is a beast around town - I’m usually parking pretty far away or on the street near my destination and avoiding the parking lot unless it is a Home Depot type larger lot.

From what I can see there aren’t too many orders for short bed Supercab builds on the spreadsheet. Does anyone have experience with these in the current generation Super Duties? Our back seat passengers will be dogs 99% of the time.

 

My wife and I were 99% of the way to ordering a supercab short bed, but in the end decided on a crew cab short bed.

I had garage anxiety mainly.

12" overall length difference from CCSB to SCSB and its all in the rear seat. Rear seat bottom in CC is larger. In Lariat trims the rear seat is vinyl, but in the CC its "leather trimmed" which probably still means mostly vinyl LOL.

Now you are talking 16" from your current rig to a CCSB and another 12" down to a SCSB. Losing 28" would be a big move IMO.

And I guess my only caution is to ask why did you buy a 350 CCLB in the first place? Did you need the towing capability? The payload capability? You are possibly going to lose numbers on both sides of that equation.

You are looking at going from a 7.3 gas to a 6.7 diesel. And from a 350 to a 250.

Your bumper tow rating would be basically unchanged(~15k). You may or may not lose tow rating on the pin depending on how both trucks are equipped.

The biggest drop would be the payload rating. You would be going from ~3600lbs down to around 1800lbs...again depending on how the trucks are equipped. Thats a big drop. If you are towing a 5er with a 2k lb pin, its to heavy for the 250 as you would exceed your payload before you and your wife even get in the truck...

I would stick with a 350 personally just to keep the payload rating up, everything else being equal between a 250 and a 350.

The other thing to think about is options. You can option up a CC much more so than a SC. If thats important to you.

 

Repeating some of what was previously written, the SC will limit your option choices which may or may not be a factor for you truck. Probably more of a factor if you are looking at getting a Lariat or above.

One big difference between the SC and CC is how the rear doors operate. With the SC you have to open the front door first. This can be inconvenient especially in parking lots. If you have had SC trucks before then you may have already considered this.

There is a place/need/desire for the SC configuration but the vast majority of trucks are CC. Consider that the SC will be a less desirable configuration when it comes to resale. This only means the market size will be smaller for a used SC not that there won't be a market.

Not clear what your reason is for going from a 350/7.3L to a 260/6.7L. The 6.7L offers so much capability that it seems a shame to neuter it by putting it in a 250.

 

FYI my 250 XLT SCSB 6.2

payload is 3290. I prefer the shorter wheel base and shorter overall length.

 

Super Cabs are pretty much utility, especially when a crew upgrade doesn’t cost that much more.
Having said that, I buy them for work because we plow snow and the short wheelbase is so much easier to navigate in tight areas, and to stay out of trouble. If you plow snow, you know exactly what I mean.
Also, a SC combined with 5’ of snow plow attached just fits in my garage. Others also choose them to fit short garages

I plan on replacing our GMC with a 23’ F-350 Super cab Lariat with a 7.3L Hopefully the 23’ will be available with LED lights.
Wheelbase is the only reason on Earth that I could think of that would be a reason to order a SC. That is my only reason.

 

I have been told this and read it multiple times, but I always wonder if its true. I dont see many for sale on the used market and I always wonder is that because there werent many produced or because its actually REALLY desirable and they dont stay on the market for long or people keep them forever.

He's talking about getting a 6.7 diesel though which weighs a lot more and causes a considerable loss of payload... The ford books says a SCSB 6.7 has anywhere from roughly 1800lbs of payload to 2200lbs depending on options. Heavier engine, DEF tank, heavier exhaust, etc... all adds up.

 

Fuel capacity may be a factor also:

 

I have a SCSB Lariat 7.3. Dogs would like the back seat. People...not so much.

 

I think it is because not many were produced. Our previous SDs have been SC. When looking for our 2019 there were no SCs on the lot to look at. Sales person said the SC configuration did not sell well so any dealer stock are always CC. SC were only special order. I started paying attention on the road and noticed that almost every truck less than 5 years old was a CC. It was rare to see a SC. The truck is my wife's daily driver. Once she looked at the CC she was happy to get rid of the inconvenience of the SC doors. The biggest problem was when parked next to another vehicle in a parking lot.

 

My theory is that for how long we as consumers have only bought whats on the dealers lots. You didnt get to put much thought into "will I really use that" because there were only crew cabs on the lot. As my wife and I found when we REALLY thought about it, we are just like the OP: wife and I and 2 dogs. Super cab is perfect for that. For the 2 times a year we need a bigger vehicle to haul people in we can borrow my neighbors suburban.

Dealers order stuff thats higher profit for them, generally speaking. Obviously they have to sell what they order and they are, generally, not complete idiots in this regard.

crew cab will be higher profit than super cab(if you make 1% of a 40k truck or 1% of a 60k truck, im only ordering 60k trucks)... One reason is you can order crew cab in higher trim levels as well as more options on lower trim levels. Take a current Lariat. You can only get lariat value, regular running boards, non LED headlights, etc... on a super cab. But step up to a crew cab and you can get Lariat ultimate, LED headlights, power fold running boards, etc...

So dealers order crew cabs only or mostly and when people go to shop all they see is crew cabs so they buy one. Wash, rinse repeat for several years and suddenly we have "well crew cabs are the only thing that sells so thats what we order"...

And again, forever, dealers have offered great deals on vehicles on the lot, but if you want to order one custom, if its even available to do that(some manufacturers, cough TOYOTA cough, as far as I can tell dont even allow their DEALERS to order custom for their lot. They get what they get...) the price is high with minimal discounts and a 2-4 month wait. So, again, a consumer typically just buys whats on the lot...which circles back to crew cabs only and we have today where I would guess 98% of sales outside of fleet or custom orders are crew cabs. I bet single cabs outsell super cabs.

NOW my wife and I ended up ordering a crew cab because I decided I wanted the lariat ultimate package, LED headlights, and power fold running boards. We decided the extra 12" of length, for us, wasnt a deal killer.

 

Some great food for thought - thanks everyone.

It’s what they had on the lot

half joking, but somewhat true. We have a 7500# bumper pull and our someday upgrade will be a 10000#, so 5er is not an issue and all trims have plenty of towing capacity for us.

Payload is a definite concern and is what has pushed us up to SD from the F150. We do craft markets a few times a year so we will have all of our gear in the bed and camper hitched up. I measured 2900# of payload on the CAT scale last trip, so we need well on the other side of 3000# capacity in the next truck. It seemed from my reading of the 2022 towing guide that we could get there with the max towing package + camper package with the 6.7 but I may be wrong.

I originally thought the 8’ bed was a necessity but we can condense down to the 6 3/4 without much trouble.

I’d do a Lariat and I’m happy with the Lariat Value as the top package.

As for diesel - that’s more of a want, tbh. The mileage improvement would be great and it would be nice to use the truck lanes when fueling on longer trips. Going from 48gal to 29gal in fuel tank capacity is going to sting though.

SC vs CC is all about wheelbase - bringing it down to 148 from 176 that we have now gives us a lot more options for using it as a daily driver and making it easy to drop the camper and run into town no matter where we are.

Probably wise to stay with the 350 for payload and I’m mulling CCSB at 160” WB vs SCSB at 148” - maybe it’s not as big of a deal as I originally thought.

 

The camper package adds nothing to the payload capacity but the high capacity tow package does. Not sure about the SC, but on the CC it adds 800lbs to the GVWR. It may be the same on the SC. Actuall payload increase would be somewhere around 600-700lbs with that package. Going with an F-350 pretty much guarantees you'll have the payload # you want.

 

The sc doors suck plain and simple. Maybe without hauling people they are better but it’s a process getting in and out if parked next to someone with those doors. Can’t fathom a reason on why Ford kept that when redesigned the entire new body.

 

You will be fine with 29 gallons in the diesel. These new 6.7/10speed are really remarkable mpg.

With your trailer I bet you will be around 12mpg at 70-75mph.

I just pulled a fairly tall 11,000 trailer a couple hundred miles at 70-75mph and it was telling me 12.3mpg. This is with shorter 2wd tires and 3.55 gears, 6.7/10speed.

 

I really like the SC clamshell rear doors better because it gives me much more room to put in a take out large items. For my use I don't like the regular CC rear doors.